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Zitat von Brian63 im Beitrag #254 I am looking at the triumph tiger 1200 as has shaft drive I am a very lazy bugger, but has to be better than my 1200RS. the all signing dancing XRt seems clever but too expensive unless get a very good deal. just pissed off with BMW but may come round if Ben the BMW customer service manager sorts something great out for me. Graham
Graham
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All the below are beautiful machines, engineering and design in harmony... I test rode my RS for 8hrs, The bike picked me within the first mile. Those who won’t wait for there 1250, ensure you get a test ride for 24 hrs. They will in January. No matter how cool the bike, it’ll have to go a long way to beat the 1200RS. Tomorrow, Sunday, I’m off to Powerslide in Stoke to view the MV, better yields on my bike now. Zitat von Brian63 im Beitrag #254 I am looking at the triumph tiger 1200 as has shaft drive I am a very lazy bugger, but has to be better than my 1200RS. the all signing dancing XRt seems clever but too expensive unless get a very good deal. just pissed off with BMW but may come round if Ben the BMW customer service manager sorts something great out for me. Graham[/quote]
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#259 | RE: so, who has ordered a 1250?
Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:34 pm (Last edited: Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:34 pm)
Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:34 pm (Last edited: Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:34 pm)
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Although briefly, was it comfortable, well built, solid. Or typical Italian? Fur coat, no knickers, silk socks?
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Zitat von midlife crisis im Beitrag #256Zitat von Brian63 im Beitrag #254 I've also written to BMW customer services to complain. I have cancelled the RS order, but I am going to proceed with the trade-in of my March 2017 R1200GS TE because I am sure I will lose big time on the trade-in if I keep it for another year, plus I would need to extend the warranty to cover my European trips this spring and summer. To stay on the road, I have had to find the extra cash to order an R1250GS TE instead of an RS. However, I would still prefer the RS long term, but I don't think it would be cost effective for me to trade a nearly new GS for one once they are available. I have therefore requested that BMW UK support my dealer in whatever way is needed so they can do a no-cost (to me or the dealer) swap out of the R1250GS for a new R1250RS once these are readily available. I will be interested to hear what response you get, and I will report back on any response I get. Maybe not much chance they agree, but if you don't ask you don't get! |
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#261 | RE: so, who has ordered a 1250?
Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:57 pm (Last edited: Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:01 pm)
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Zitat von Brian63 im Beitrag #254 I was interested in the 950 now that it is available with the S (Skyhook) option and had a sit on it at the NEC, but found it a little cramped compared to my GS, though maybe less so compared with the RS. What also put me off was the chain drive and that the luggage capacity is compromised on the right side by the exhaust, even though it is not really a high level exhaust like the GS, so you would have thought they could have avoided this. I do a lot of two-up touring with my wife, so luggage space is important to me, and you can bet that it wouldn't be her getting the smaller pannier! Fred |
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Zitat von fred_jb im Beitrag #260Zitat von midlife crisis im Beitrag #256Zitat von Brian63 im Beitrag #254 ...and then I woke up .... Very sorry for all those who were drooling in expectation of riding a new 1250RS this Spring. By any sort of reasoning this is a major screw up by BMW. Having launched the RS at EICMA (decision A), and loaded each country's website BMW must have been caught out by something and that some thing must be orders for the GS and RT. So the capacity for engine production has to be the cause. And as the production line has been re-tooled for all the LC range I guess the other consequence is very few R1200RS left in stock at dealers as production will have been run down due to decision A.
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Zitat von andygriff im Beitrag #262Zitat von fred_jb im Beitrag #260Zitat von midlife crisis im Beitrag #256Zitat von Brian63 im Beitrag #254 I agree that it is a major screw-up, and probably mainly caused by demand for the R1250GS/GSA as I don't think the RT is a volume seller these days, so it seems BMW are not prepared to sacrifice even a few GS sales to satisfy loyal RS customers - I guess there must be a bigger profit margin on the GS. However as you say, the new RS was at EICMA and the NEC and both punters and dealers were led to believe that it would be available in March. The high demand for the R1250GS(A) in turn means there will be a lot of 1200GS trade-in and ex-PCP bikes in the system within a short time which is a particular problem for me as I wanted to move from GS to RS and any delay would see me hit hard on trade-in valuation. What I can't understand is why the R1250R is supposedly not affected. The RS is just the faired version of that bike, so you would have thought they could have built some of each rather than only the R. |
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#266 | RE: so, who has ordered a 1250?
Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:14 am (Last edited: Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:16 am)
Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:14 am (Last edited: Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:16 am)
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Zitat von boxter im Beitrag #264 The only new item that's different from the other bikes is the headlights. If they found a problem with the lights I don't think it would take most of the year to correct the problem.
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2016 R1200RS Iowa, USA |
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Zitat von Lee im Beitrag #267Zitat von boxter im Beitrag #264 There are many things that can go wrong, the way the frame deals with the extra torque, aerodynamic issues with the engine shape slight change, there may even be a problem with the engine, thus they haven't tooled up. Ged
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#269 | RE: so, who has ordered a 1250?
Sun Jan 20, 2019 2:58 am (Last edited: Sun Jan 20, 2019 2:59 am)
Sun Jan 20, 2019 2:58 am (Last edited: Sun Jan 20, 2019 2:59 am)
Zitat von boxter im Beitrag #268Zitat von Lee im Beitrag #267Zitat von boxter im Beitrag #264 Most of that stuff would also affect the R1250R (and other boxer bikes for that matter) but production of the R is going ahead in March, so it's a bit of a puzzle. Could be the lights have been found to not meet some obscure regulation for position relative to other parts of the vehicle, and they are having to re-tool to change the light related bits of the bodywork accordingly. |
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