RE: Hilltop - 7

Zitat von Bravo im Beitrag #89

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Peter mine has the same exhaust set up as yours, have a butchers at my print out.

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Zitat von Sanemancured im Beitrag #88

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I'm late to the party on this and curious. Do Hilltop's points below apply to the RS remap?

1. We don't touch the original factory software, so there's no chance of us ruining your ECU. Our software goes onto unused space on the ECU and interacts with the original software as necessary (to allow functionality such as immobilisers, ABS braking, traction control etc.)

2. We're not stuck with the legacy of anything the manufacturer creates that's less than ideal in functionality (some manufacturers' software is much better than others).

3. Our software is self-learning, so you can change exhausts, air filters etc. without needing the ECU programmed again. This also means that the bike will perform optimally in all climates and at all altitudes.

4. Our software is invisible and cannot be seen by your dealer or anyone else, so your warranty will not be affected.

My bike is running stock headers and a Remus complete with baffle. I've no desire to change that and I'm wondering if anyone has a similar set up and what gains they saw?

Peter

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Sorry, you don't need the dyno run it's for inf only

Fantastic results Bravo, or should that be, Fantastic results, bravo!

Has anyone had Hill Top fettle a Euro 4 engine? I’d be very interested in the results of that exercise, as the Euro 4 is not as blessed as the 3 in the HP and Torque department according to my Arseometer! With 12,000 miles on each I’ve got a pretty good idea. The 4 has to be in Dynamic to get a shuffle on, the 3 didn’t care.

Zitat von Oscarguitar im Beitrag #94

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Fantastic results Bravo, or should that be, Fantastic results, bravo!

Has anyone had Hill Top fettle a Euro 4 engine? I’d be very interested in the results of that exercise, as the Euro 4 is not as blessed as the 3 in the HP and Torque department according to my Arseometer! With 12,000 miles on each I’ve got a pretty good idea. The 4 has to be in Dynamic to get a shuffle on, the 3 didn’t care.

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Zitat von Oscarguitar im Beitrag #94

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Has anyone had Hill Top fettle a Euro 4 engine? I’d be very interested in the results of that exercise

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Jason,

Thanks, I remember your engine swap story (old forum??).

So looking at the available results

Bravo (Euro 3) even with fancy can actually had the slowest bike with a miserable 93 bhp and 69 torques
Jason (Euro 4 hybrid) had 96 bhp and 72 torques
Fuggly - don’t know but probably off the scale!

After Hilltop
Jason has seen the least improvement with 105 and 83 - probably down to standard exhaust
Bravo has leapfrogged into second place with 107 and 84 torques
Fuggly has insane results of 116 and 88 - but has full headers and can.

So it’s a worthwhile upgrade, and gets better if you have better breathing exhaust. Also Euro 4 restrictions are ‘bypassed’ to achieve similar output and curves to Euro 3 speed machines.

Hmm! Where is this place? 😁

Zitat von Oscarguitar im Beitrag #97

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Jason,

Thanks, I remember your engine swap story (old forum??).

So looking at the available results

Bravo (Euro 3) even with fancy can actually had the slowest bike with a miserable 93 bhp and 69 torques
Jason (Euro 4 hybrid) had 96 bhp and 72 torques
Fuggly - don’t know but probably off the scale!

After Hilltop
Jason has seen the least improvement with 105 and 83 - probably down to standard exhaust
Bravo has leapfrogged into second place with 107 and 84 torques
Fuggly has insane results of 116 and 88 - but has full headers and can.

So it’s a worthwhile upgrade, and gets better if you have better breathing exhaust. Also Euro 4 restrictions are ‘bypassed’ to achieve similar output and curves to Euro 3 speed machines.

Hmm! Where is this place? 😁

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I looked. 166 miles away. Nice little jaunt!

The run home will be nicer for sure

Funny old world. A friend in my IAM Group (yeah I'm THAT old) posted up yesterday about organising a group discount for a RS/RT/GS run down to Hinkley. So many thanks for pointing me in this direction so it seemed like I knew what I was talking about.

Folk are suggesting cheaper and closer alternatives but I'm not sure that they will offer the ECU transparency or the database of expertise....

Anyway, I need a motorway run to flatten off my tyres....

When I was there Geoff said he had mapped over 2500 R1200's so I would guess he should got it sussed by now

Zitat von Fugly im Beitrag #102

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When I was there Geoff said he had mapped over 2500 R1200's so I would guess he should got it sussed by now

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Plus all the other stuff, BUT he put the effort into developing the product or paid for the development plus he has all the other overheads so no quibble from me.

I admire someone that build something from scratch based on an idea and take it to market and if successful they deserve everything they get out of it. Just seeing some of the e-mails that came in whilst we were there was eye-opening. One claimed the remap stopped his heated grips working! Seeing his response (the typed one as opposed to the vocalised one across the workshop) says he is better at dealing with humans than me

Zitat von Fugly im Beitrag #104

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Plus all the other stuff, BUT he put the effort into developing the product or paid for the development plus he has all the other overheads so no quibble from me.

I admire someone that build something from scratch based on an idea and take it to market and if successful they deserve everything they get out of it. Just seeing some of the e-mails that came in whilst we were there was eye-opening. One claimed the remap stopped his heated grips working! Seeing his response (the typed one as opposed to the vocalised one across the workshop) says he is better at dealing with humans than me

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