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Wed Dec 14, 2022 11:23 pm
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Zitat von andygriff im Beitrag #97 Is it just me but I much prefer my 2017 Granite Grey RS. I am in the fortunate position of being able to buy a new RS but won't bother. I think BMW have lost the plot with their colour schemes. The only feature I would like is the TFT display but I can easily live without it. My bike is in perfect condition, like new and goes like a train. Why change? |
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Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #105 Is he saying his allocation is already set and he will not be able to place a order for you? As for the short shield you can try cutting down the stock shield to see how you like it. If you're afraid to cut your shield you could buy a used one cheap and experiment with it.
Lee
2022 R1250RS White Sport Iowa, USA |
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Zitat von Lee im Beitrag #108Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #105 No...his allocation hasn't even been set yet. He doesn't know (a) IF he'll get any RS bikes, and (b) if he gets one or more, what color they'll be. He said BMW builds the bikes and allocates to dealers, who (according to my dealer) have no choice in what they get. I assume all those that are shipped have the premium package and that the only options you can have, by ordering them afterward, are the "719" options and things like Akra muffler and panniers. I got the sense that you get what BMW sends the dealer...or nothing. I'd be VERY interested to hear from forum members who can contradict that and have been able to "custom order" an RS. In addition to "supply" issues being behind this ambiguous availability situation, my dealer told me BMW undertook a corporate "downsizing" this past year, which I assume also down-sized the number of bikes being built. As for the screen, I've had plenty of windscreen experience (my garage has numerous examples of failed experiments) and I'm convinced low is the way to go. I will likely (assuming I get an RS) buy the Aeroflow "Short Sport" screen, which at the top of the screen is about 3 1/2" lower than BMW's OEM screen...and it's a smoked color, which I definitely prefer. |
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Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #109 We ordered both of our 2022 RSs. In the US we can't pick and choose much for individual options. We ordered the color, premium package, rear luggage rack, centerstand and Sport seat. Luggage is not ordered with the bike. We did have the option to order any of the Option 719 items. If our dealer had not received any allocations for RSs we may not have been able to order. I called the shop the day or day after the 2022 colors were announced to tell them we wanted two. They had received a allocation that day for one and had to call the BMW Rep to make sure they could get a 2nd one.
Lee
2022 R1250RS White Sport Iowa, USA |
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Zitat von Lee im Beitrag #110Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #109 It makes me wonder... Perhaps something's changed since the 2022 allocations, however. As my dealer stated, BMW did a downsizing this year, which may have negatively impacted the ability to have a say in what allocation is received. Could you ask your dealer if he's able to order 2023 bikes, at will? That would tell me if my dealer is giving me good info...or something else. Thanks. |
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Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #111Zitat von Lee im Beitrag #110Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #109 where does your dealer get the info about downsizing? I have not seen any press reports and in the UK, as has been reported in another thread, new Motorrad dealerships are opening as older ones leave. At https://www.bmwgroup.com/en/company/news.html#ace-494559190 there is a recent story about 1.7 billion dollar investment in the US to build electric vehicles. There has been short term reductions in production due to component shortages and worries about energy supplies over winter in Germany but nothing permanent announced.
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Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #111 I got the impression that some of the bikes dealers receive the dealer has to take what BMW sends. Some of the bikes the dealer can choose options and colors. I'll email and ask if Engles can order 2023 RSs now. Edit: I called the shop but the salesman is off today. The lady who does the finance said she had not seen any allocations for 2023 RSs so far and was not sure if they could order at this time. She was thinking they only received four 2022 RSs this last year. I'll try to remember to call again tomorrow and ask the salesman or owner. Lee |
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Zitat von Lee im Beitrag #113Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #111 that is the same for any franchise regardless of marque, as evidenced by the number of BMW R1800, Yamaha MT10, Chrysler 300 and Lexus GX sitting in showrooms around the world.
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Zitat von Lee im Beitrag #113Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #111 Thank you! Above and beyond the call of duty, but I really appreciate the info. At least from this reply, it seems to corroborate what my dealer told me. |
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Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #114Zitat von Lee im Beitrag #113Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #111 Ah, the R1800...so many bikes, so few buyers, so many discounts...lol! Yes, that one, for sure, was "put" to the dealers. |
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For a number of years I knew a free-lance journalist who was always invited to BMW model launch events. At least he did until he bought a BMW bike with his own money and then criticized some features of it in one of his articles. That was when he was "black balled" by BMW and was never able to get another article published by the U.S. major magazines. I still recall his funny saying (said in a German accent) about BMW's motto: "We are making the perfect motorcycle, the customer knows nothing." I think what he was trying to say is that BMW makes what they want the customer to buy, not necessarily what their customers want to buy.
Current motorcycle collection: 2002 Yamaha FZ1; 2020 KTM 390 Duke; 2011 Royal Enfield Bullet 500; 2009 BMW F650GS; 2016 BMW R1200RS; 2018 Zero S 16.6 kWh
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Interesting...and it's probably no coincidence that most moto-journalist articles about new bikes are "fluff" pieces with only the barest attempt to point out any negatives. However, an intelligent reader can parse the negatives in the articles when some feature of a bike is "damned with faint praise" - I'm thinking of a recent "review" of the R1800 in an issue of Road Racing World. |
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Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #109 If you're not in striking distance of Anaheim to try out the screens, your approach sounds reasonable. At 6 foot 3 (189 cm) I picked up a used smoke, standard sport screen through Sierra BMW, which seems to do a brisk business in Aeroflow windscreens. For 90% of my riding, it's been the go to. When it came to experimenting with a winter/below freezing touring screen, I decided that St. Louis was within striking distance of the Aeroflow shop. There's nothing like being able to try out a few screens to feel assured that one has the best size screen for the purpose. Which, reminds me to add - I still throw the stock screen on when I want to maximize airflow. To keep the thread on track - seems the folks in St. Louis will have access to some 2023 RSs, but that likely reflects their ability to sell dozens (well over 100) R18s..... “A good man always knows his limitations.” |
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