R1200RS + R1250RS Forum
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Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:05 pm
Zitat von andygriff im Beitrag #74Zitat von jimbob im Beitrag #73 Maybe he's talking about the Sport Screen? Even that is not new for 2023. Our 2022 bikes came with it and it might have been available in 2021.
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Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #70Zitat von Mr. 36654 im Beitrag #69Zitat von Lee im Beitrag #66Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #63 The UK has different packages compared to the US. In the US we pretty much have Base and Premium. When ordering our bikes I would have liked all the options except keyless and maybe chrome exhaust. I like the looks of the brushed stainless muffler.
Lee
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Zitat von andygriff im Beitrag #74Zitat von jimbob im Beitrag #73 I have a '17... and I'm guessing there are loads of '16's, '17's, and '18's out there, and the dash on those is not that great....... just sayin |
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Zitat von Lee im Beitrag #75Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #67 OK...I'm ready. The only question mark is...will my dealer be able to get an RS for me. He says he's meeting with the BMW rep in early December and will know how the availability situation looks. Do you guys have a sense of whether ordering an RS to your specs in the US is going to be problematic? Is the "supply chain" boogey man still making his presence felt to such a degree that ordering a bike is an issue? |
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Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #80Zitat von Lee im Beitrag #75Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #67 the BMW rep is not going to be able to predict factory output during 2023. I am on this forum, the UKGS forum and an S1000XR forum. All models have current delays with delivery, as do people ordering any other product that is made to order. This is down to component shortages due to limited output from China, as they keep locking down cities due to Covid outbreaks. Even if your leaders persuade the Chinese government to be more risk averse, it will take a while before any normality returns to output. Then there is the energy supply problem in Europe. Germany has stated it will shut down industry to keep gas supplies flowing for domestic heating and electricity. Non essential factories like the motor trade will be first on the list. The mild autumn has eased this situation but it will not take much of a cold snap for panic about gas supply to set in. People were hoping the French nuclear industry would bail out the continent but they seem to have half their power stations mothballed due to the same corrosion problems that closed the older nuclear power stations in the UK. If you are given a delivery date by a dealer, it will be about as reliable as a chocolate tea pot.
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Jeff Bezos is making some news by recommending that people delay big ticket purchases at this time. He's saying keep some savings in reserve as the economy slows, possibly into recession. In my opinion, that's really good advice. As demand drops, prices will drop.
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Regarding Bezos and his comments on the economy (https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/14/economy/j...index.html)...I believe he's right. I worked for a big NYSE firm for over 30 years before retiring, and have never been as bearish about the outlook as I am now...despite recent Wall Street rallies on hopes the Fed will reverse course and save us all. The excesses of the past 10+ years won't be diminished in a few months. So, yes...agree with Bezos, but I still want the new tricolor RS, as a replacement for my tricolor '17 RR, which has served me well...but my 75 year-old back wants a wee bit more comfort. |
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Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #83 The stock market and the economy are as related as a unicorn and a cow. One feeds on pixy dust and farts rainbows, while the other produces fertilizer while being fattened market. Just my opinion.........having survived the early 80s, working as an engineer
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Zitat von Mr. 36654 im Beitrag #84Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #83 Actually they are related...often inversely... And that's my opinion (lol!)...having started my career on Wall Street when the Dow Jones was under 600. And I remember when it hit 5,000 and blew everyone's mind. Now...nothing blows my mind when it comes to the financial world. Anyway, enough about that...I'll be happy if I can get that RS. |
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Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #83 I imagine any plans for the 2023 model, including the marketing budget, were decided long before Putin headed westwards. Big corporations move very slowly. Plus dealers want your deposit for cashflow and hopefully the part exchange bike to give them something to sell. The latter is certainly something dealers in the UK have been encouraging hoping the customer bites with the advice, "let us have the part-ex bike now and we can give you £500 more than if you trade it in next May." Dealers know a customer is less likely to pull out of the deal if they have had the p-ex bike as a deposit.
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That guy on a red CBR in January people stare at because it's 0C and they're shivering in a car with heated seats - but he's filtering awaaaay! |
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Zitat von Valks im Beitrag #89 I concur but I believe BEARR is besotted with the pretty shiny thing. The last bike I bought was a used bike. Sat on it at 10am, went home, had a coffee and phoned to say, "yes please, I'll collect it at 4pm this afternoon." I have bought new bikes but always from dealer stock and usually at a time of year when they are keen to shift stock before winter or a new model arrives. I have reduced my working hours by 20% so I have had to stop such impulsive behaviour!
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