RE: 2023 R/RS Update - 12

Zitat von Lee im Beitrag #165

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Early on I noticed on the BMW US site the rear luggage grid was not available from the factory when you use the "Build Your Own" tool.
I figured it was a fluke on the site and figured when a dealer placed the order they could get the rear Luggage Grid included with the order.
It costs a lot more to add it later.
Today when I was looking at the MAX BMW site and Cycle Trader for all states none of the 2023 RS or 2023 R bikes had a luggage grid in the real pictures.
I also noticed all the Sport models had the Passenger Kit. A few bikes I looked at the option list and none showed the rear seat cover.

In the UK the bikes can be ordered with the rear Luggage Grid. Are you guys in the UK seeing any Sport models with the rear seat cover?

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Zitat von Paul911 im Beitrag #160

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Shame they could not get the right aircraft in the publicity shot

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Hi, I ordered my new RS with the tubular bars and was disappointed. They are not much higher than the stock bars and so the riding position is still too far on my wrists for me. Fortunately I kept the Wunderlich conversion bars that I had fitted to my previous RS and they were much higher than the tubular ones and also brought the grips back quite a bit. I came to the RS after 15 years with the GS and really couldn't live with the stock bars, even with Helibar mounts. The Wunderlich do it for me and make the bike so much more comfortable for an oldie, (i'm 73).
A good tip if you are thinking of swapping bars: the grips have to be disconnected to allow them to slide off the bars as per the Wunderlich instructions. I found that a better way is to disconnect all the cables from the throttle side which is relatively easy. remove that side then just undo the screw that sits under the grip between the wizz wheel and the switch gear and pull the screw clear. Then you can slide the bar out of the nearside grip and the new bar back into it without disturbing the cables, which are quite a pain to disconnect.

This my old and new bike with the Wunderlich bars20230325_095727.jpg - Bild entfernt (keine Rechte)IAN00812.JPG - Bild entfernt (keine Rechte)

It seems like the optional bars for the RS might be the sport bars from the R, which are lower and narrower than standard.

Can you tell me why you used the bar mount mirrors on the RS instead of the fairing mounted ones? Thanks.

I got a chance to have a test ride of MY'23 BMW R1250RS and to compare R1200RS vs. R1250RS side by side. R1200RS I have in the garage for couple of years (it is bike of my wife and I love to ride it too), the new RS in this 3-color combination I wanted to have in my garage as replacement for my MY15 FJR (I already booked the bike at BMW dealer for me this spring). But I was finally lucky to find almost new 2020 FJR Ultimate Edition and because I love FJR's, I changed my mind and replaced MY15 FJR by another FJR - the last one possible, because this bike is not available anymore in Europe...

Therefore I was really looking for the opportunity of this test ride, here is my experience out of it. For sure, you guys are far more knowledgeable on RS than me.

The new R1250RS looks better than R1200RS to me. Frame and suspension - I did not recognized any difference. Seat on new RS is heated and looks better, but is less comfortable on my opinion (may be because of heated mat???). Handling of the bikes in the corners is the same (no change in bike geometry or ergonomic). The new tachometer is really great, the screen looks much better compare to previous one, has very nice layout, good visibility and plenty of option for information to be display and is very intuitive. I really like Sport Mode appearance. OEM location of GPS cradle on both bikes are identical and is not good (too low and out of view).

New RS has more features in standards now as far as I know, compare to previous years, but the bike I was tested did not have Cruise control, what is for the Sport touring bike a must in my point of view. I did not ride at dark so I can't judge the headlight performance, but I expect the new RS LED is better. I did not find any big difference in the brakes - both are very good.

I expected that the biggest difference is engine. But my experience shows that no so much. At normal "road mode" and riding in the city or slower interstate roads with normal traffic, feeling from the engine is almost identical on both bikes. New RS has a bit less vibrations. Bigger difference in the power and torque was noticeable in Dynamic Pro mode and higher revs. Than acceleration and feeling of more HP was quite significant. I took the bike to very nice area in the mountains with a lot of fast curves - this bike love it (and me too...).

My conclusion on new RS: I really like this bike, it is very easy to handle (my wife weight is ~50 kg and with lower seat she manage it better than smaller/lighter 4 cylinders bikes). RS is comfortable for long trips. From my point of view RS looks better than "huge" RT. With this 3-color paint the bike looks sporty and sexy. I am tired of to see so many GS' on the roads everywhere and only a few of them will ever touch off-road or gravel. The RS is somehow overlooked in the BMW range, but it is really very, very good bike. You guys are happy men.

So, is it worth to switch from MY17 Lupin-blue with just 22k km on the clock to the new RS? I like design changes of the front, I love the tacho-screen, also the painting looks great to me, but I do not think so, in our case. We will keep our R1200RS in the garage for a while.

Forget the written part of your review, those photographs are professional quality. I don't know what you do for a living, but you could be a photographer for any number of motorcycling publications!

Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #174

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Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #173

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Forget the written part of your review, those photographs are professional quality. I don't know what you do for a living, but you could be a photographer for any number of motorcycling publications!

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I suspect the photographer is kebo's wife

kebo, you have made a wise decision to keep the 1200

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I'm sure many will disagree with me, but I think the 1200 looks so much better than the 1250 (especially lupins).

And I've never had a problem with the TFT on the 1200.

A very well written comparison so thank you for that,just a couple of differences of opinions.
Like Bonzo I agree that the 1250 just doesn't look as good as the 1200 and colours,sexier than a Lupin? Never!
After the bland/dull/baby poo colours they saddled the 1250 with when it was launched it seems to me that the new rwb scheme is BMW trying to over compensate for its earlier error(a chum has the white one and I quite like it).
Glad you're keeping your 1200 Lupin.

Agree the colours are fubar. Only sensible choice for a new buyer is to get the cheapest default colour on offer and get the panels resprayed.

Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #175

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Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #174

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Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #173

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Forget the written part of your review, those photographs are professional quality. I don't know what you do for a living, but you could be a photographer for any number of motorcycling publications!

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I suspect the photographer is kebo's wife

kebo, you have made a wise decision to keep the 1200

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I guess that was so obvious I missed it...lol! Such a talented wife, then...!

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Nice photos...nice area!