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#1 | New Michelin tyre, again, #6 in an infinite series datum

Tue Jan 04, 2022 8:55 pm

apparently more miles and more grip compared to the one they brought out what seems a few weeks ago
https://www.michelinman.com/motorcycle/tires/michelin-road-6

More anxiety for the tyre worriers

Not that I'm likely to ditch the Avons any time soon

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#2 | RE: New Michelin tyre, again, #6 in an infinite series datum

Tue Jan 04, 2022 9:01 pm

Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #1
apparently more miles and more grip compared to the one they brought out what seems a few weeks ago
https://www.michelinman.com/motorcycle/tires/michelin-road-6

More anxiety for the tyre worriers

Not that I'm likely to ditch the Avons any time soon

And, don't forget, you're one generation out of date with those Avons..........

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#3 | RE: New Michelin tyre, again, #6 in an infinite series datum

Tue Jan 04, 2022 9:01 pm

Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #1
apparently more miles and more grip compared to the one they brought out what seems a few weeks ago
https://www.michelinman.com/motorcycle/tires/michelin-road-6

More anxiety for the tyre worriers

Not that I'm likely to ditch the Avons any time soon

And, don't forget, you're one generation out of date with those Avons..........

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#4 | RE: New Michelin tyre, again, #6 in an infinite series datum

Tue Jan 04, 2022 9:03 pm

Pardon, what was that again?

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#5 | RE: New Michelin tyre, again, #6 in an infinite series datum

Tue Jan 04, 2022 9:32 pm (Last edited: Tue Jan 04, 2022 9:36 pm)

In the US, the Spirit model has replaced the Storm in the Avon lineup

And, please, delete my double post, if you would. The idea of you being witty at my expense is something I don't wish to contemplate at the moment.

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#6 | RE: New Michelin tyre, again, #6 in an infinite series datum

Tue Jan 04, 2022 9:47 pm

Zitat von Mr. 36654 im Beitrag #5
In the US, the Spirit model has replaced the Storm in the Avon lineup

And, please, delete my double post, if you would. The idea of you being witty at my expense is something I don't wish to contemplate at the moment.

I am unable to comply as that would be a conflict of interest.

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#7 | RE: New Michelin tyre, again, #6 in an infinite series datum

Tue Jan 04, 2022 11:21 pm (Last edited: Tue Jan 04, 2022 11:24 pm)

If the motorcycle tire manufacturers' longevity claims for every new tire model that they have introduced over the past 30 years was true, our tires should last about 50K miles by now and would stick to the pavement so well that you would have to pry them off with a crowbar.

However, the one thing you can be sure of is that every new tire model will cost more than the last version.

Current motorcycle collection: 2002 Yamaha FZ1; 2020 KTM 390 Duke; 2011 Royal Enfield Bullet 500; 2009 BMW F650GS; 2016 BMW R1200RS; 2018 Zero S 16.6 kWh

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#8 | RE: New Michelin tyre, again, #6 in an infinite series datum

Tue Jan 04, 2022 11:30 pm (Last edited: Tue Jan 04, 2022 11:31 pm)

Zitat von Richard230 im Beitrag #7
If the motorcycle tire manufacturers' longevity claims for every new tire model that they have introduced over the past 30 years was true, our tires should last about 50K miles by now and would stick to the pavement so well that you would have to pry them off with a crowbar.

However, the one thing you can be sure of is that every new tire model will cost more than the last version.

My new Dunlop rs4's are holding to the companies longevity claims. 2/32 used in 4K miles. 6/32 available when new of the 8/32, these should last to 10K+ miles. Another member here has used several sets with the same mileage attained.

I've never gotten 10K out of a rear tire on the GT/GS or the first set of Michelins that came with the RS.

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#9 | RE: New Michelin tyre, again, #6 in an infinite series datum

Wed Jan 05, 2022 7:19 am

Zitat von Richard230 im Beitrag #7
If the motorcycle tire manufacturers' longevity claims for every new tire model that they have introduced over the past 30 years was true, our tires should last about 50K miles by now and would stick to the pavement so well that you would have to pry them off with a crowbar.

However, the one thing you can be sure of is that every new tire model will cost more than the last version.

I cannot disagree with anything you said. However, I believe that motorcycle tires are better now than they have ever been. I like where we are today on tires.

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#10 | RE: New Michelin tyre, again, #6 in an infinite series datum

Wed Jan 05, 2022 3:28 pm

Zitat von runnerhiker im Beitrag #9
Zitat von Richard230 im Beitrag #7
If the motorcycle tire manufacturers' longevity claims for every new tire model that they have introduced over the past 30 years was true, our tires should last about 50K miles by now and would stick to the pavement so well that you would have to pry them off with a crowbar.

However, the one thing you can be sure of is that every new tire model will cost more than the last version.

I cannot disagree with anything you said. However, I believe that motorcycle tires are better now than they have ever been. I like where we are today on tires.

I think the tires are better in terms of grip, but, in my case with Michelins, front tire longevity has dropped as the tread pattern has become more open for wet traction.

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#11 | RE: New Michelin tyre, again, #6 in an infinite series datum

Wed Jan 05, 2022 5:53 pm (Last edited: Wed Jan 05, 2022 5:55 pm)

Zitat von Richard230 im Beitrag #7
If the motorcycle tire manufacturers' longevity claims for every new tire model that they have introduced over the past 30 years was true, our tires should last about 50K miles by now and would stick to the pavement so well that you would have to pry them off with a crowbar.

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Great progress has been made with how tires stick and handle but not much improvement in tire life.
In the 80s and 90s we could get 10,000 to 12,000 miles with our K75 bikes. They didn't stick that well but lasted a long time.
Only having 70 to 75 hp probably helped :)

When we went to Alaska that was 10,000 miles and the tires were not shot and that was with a lot of gravel.

Lee
2022 R1250RS
Iowa, USA

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#12 | RE: New Michelin tyre, again, #6 in an infinite series datum

Wed Jan 05, 2022 6:10 pm

Zitat von Lee im Beitrag #11
Zitat von Richard230 im Beitrag #7
If the motorcycle tire manufacturers' longevity claims for every new tire model that they have introduced over the past 30 years was true, our tires should last about 50K miles by now and would stick to the pavement so well that you would have to pry them off with a crowbar.

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Great progress has been made with how tires stick and handle but not much improvement in tire life.
In the 80s and 90s we could get 10,000 to 12,000 miles with our K75 bikes. They didn't stick that well but lasted a long time.
Only having 70 to 75 hp probably helped :)

When we went to Alaska that was 10,000 miles and the tires were not shot and that was with a lot of gravel.

I started riding in the early 1990s. I shudder when I think of the OE tyres on my 1994 VFR750FR. Michelin A/M89. Horrid things made from something like bakelite. Fortunately, Bridgestone and Dunlop had moved things on considerably and a set of D204 transformed the bike.

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#13 | RE: New Michelin tyre, again, #6 in an infinite series datum

Wed Jan 05, 2022 6:32 pm

Zitat von Lee im Beitrag #11
Zitat von Richard230 im Beitrag #7
If the motorcycle tire manufacturers' longevity claims for every new tire model that they have introduced over the past 30 years was true, our tires should last about 50K miles by now and would stick to the pavement so well that you would have to pry them off with a crowbar.

]

Great progress has been made with how tires stick and handle but not much improvement in tire life.
In the 80s and 90s we could get 10,000 to 12,000 miles with our K75 bikes. They didn't stick that well but lasted a long time.
Only having 70 to 75 hp probably helped :)

When we went to Alaska that was 10,000 miles and the tires were not shot and that was with a lot of gravel.

At the time, the Metzler Laser 33s or the 88s for the touring guys, seemed like magic. At some point, I jumped to the Michelin bias-ply offering.

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#14 | RE: New Michelin tyre, again, #6 in an infinite series datum

Wed Jan 05, 2022 6:42 pm

Zitat von Mr. 36654 im Beitrag #10
Zitat von runnerhiker im Beitrag #9
Zitat von Richard230 im Beitrag #7
If the motorcycle tire manufacturers' longevity claims for every new tire model that they have introduced over the past 30 years was true, our tires should last about 50K miles by now and would stick to the pavement so well that you would have to pry them off with a crowbar.

However, the one thing you can be sure of is that every new tire model will cost more than the last version.

I cannot disagree with anything you said. However, I believe that motorcycle tires are better now than they have ever been. I like where we are today on tires.

I think the tires are better in terms of grip, but, in my case with Michelins, front tire longevity has dropped as the tread pattern has become more open for wet traction.

Car tires have also gotten much better in the same time frame, but again, tire life hasn't really improved.

Especially with a motorcycle, I think I'd rather have grip.

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#15 | RE: New Michelin tyre, again, #6 in an infinite series datum

Wed Jan 05, 2022 6:52 pm

Zitat von Paul911 im Beitrag #14

Especially with a motorcycle, I think I'd rather have grip.

I want it all

Lee
2022 R1250RS
Iowa, USA

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