RE: New Michelin tyre, again, #6 in an infinite series - 5

That’s a lot. You might price out Dunlop Roadsmart 3’s or metzler Roadtec 01SE

Interesting. My tire wear is the opposite - I wear out the rear long before the front wears out. With the exception of dirt bikes :-).

I tend to use the gears and throttle for slowing down rather than the brakes and generally I am not at maximum pace. Still significantly above the speed limit in the twisties though.
As most of the braking for a modern bike is from the front wheel, I am guessing that might be contributing to the difference.

I ordered a set of Metzler Roadtec 01SEs yesterday. The shop said they will have them in either late this week or early next week. I'll have them mounted and see what I think. If I don't care for them as much as Michelin Roads or they don't wear as well, I can return to the road series next set.

Zitat von Davidnapo im Beitrag #60

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I got prices from my local dealer. Damn the Road 6 is expensive! The want $784 for a pair of 6s mounted, $655 for a pair of 5s, and $624 for Roadtec 01SEs. All prices are mounted on the rims if I take them in off bike. From the reviews I've found the Roadtec is the most highly rated for their sporting feel. Since they used an R1250RS for the test bike I'm feeling incline to give them a try. I used a Metzler on my VFR a number of years ago and I remember liking them. If I don't, I'll switch back to the Road series when they wear out.

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My new '23 RS came with Metzeler Roadtec 01 tires. Right away I noticed something about them...they are really "squirrely" over tar snakes. I've had Michelin PR6 GT tires (on an F800GT) and they were nice. I've had Metzeler M7 RR's and M9 RR's on an S1000RR and they were super nice. I'm inclined, when the RS needs tires, to switch to the Michelins...that action over tar snakes is unsettling (no pun intended!).

Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #65

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My new '23 RS came with Metzeler Roadtec 01 tires. Right away I noticed something about them...they are really "squirrely" over tar snakes. I've had Michelin PR6 GT tires (on an F800GT) and they were nice. I've had Metzeler M7 RR's and M9 RR's on an S1000RR and they were super nice. I'm inclined, when the RS needs tires, to switch to the Michelins...that action over tar snakes is unsettling (no pun intended!).

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Zitat von Davidnapo im Beitrag #63

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I ordered a set of Metzler Roadtec 01SEs yesterday. The shop said they will have them in either late this week or early next week. I'll have them mounted and see what I think. If I don't care for them as much as Michelin Roads or they don't wear as well, I can return to the road series next set.

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“I ordered a set of Metzler Roadtec 01SEs yesterday. The shop said they will have them in either late this week or early next week. I'll have them mounted and see what I think. If I don't care for them as much as Michelin Roads or they don't wear as well, I can return to the road series next set.”

You can, only 8000 miles of squirrelyness to go!

I’m not a fan of the Metzler Z8 (don’t know about the 01 SE) on the RS, if found them wooden and unresponsive. When I got my 1250 in 2019 I had the OEM tyres replaced with R5’s before it left the dealer. They went back into stock so £50 well spent IMHO.

I have just changed both Tyres to R6GT, so far I’ve only ridden in wet, cold and mainly straight roads. It’s early days but I think I prefer the R5. The dealer fitted the R6GT (where as the R5’s were the non GT version. It’s the approved fitment so they wouldn’t fit the non GT version. The GT has stiffer sidewalls which don’t do anything for the ride and I think don’t think give as much feedback. Had I known this I would had stayed with the cheaper non GT R5. I don’t weigh much, rarely put the panniers on and take a pillion about twice a year, so I don’t need the extra load carrying capacity.

I might even ditch the R6GT’s and replace with R5s as I don’t want to be disappointed for the next 8000 miles for the sake of a few hundred quid. Life is too short and it’s an expensive toy anyway. I can probably sell the 6GT’s with 1000 miles on them to off set the cost.

While I’m having a mild rant, I’m also going to replace the hugger that BMW insisted was removed. I didn’t think it was very effective but liked the look, but believe me (45,000 miles on 3 different RS) it really does make a difference. I have never got so much crap on the bike, suspension and my gear since it was taken off. And I refuse to attach the lid from a takeaway container to the frame with cable ties (or Mudsling as I think it’s called).

Zitat von Richard230 im Beitrag #59

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[quote=Davidnapo|p53808]the front tire typically only has about half the tread depth of the rear tire. So it makes sense that it would wear out quicker.

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At $500 for a set (just the tires), the Road6's had better offer some increased front tire tread life relative to the $385 (per set) Road5's. I'm currently running the Dunlop RS4's which have a slightly different feel, but seemingly good traction, but would consider returning to the Road 4 GT's.

First, I have to say I was wrong about the tire prices. The Metzlers were more like $450 for the pair and $90 to mount and spin balance them. The higher prices they gave me were retail, which they tell me no one sells at because no one would buy them. I put them back on the bike Tuesday evening. Wednesday and Thursday I rode the bike back and forth to work, riding like a little old man to get them scuffed in. I have a little over 100 miles on them after this morning's ride in. I really like them. I read they had a harsher ride than the road 5. Maybe by a little bit on certain bumps but I wouldn't call it objectionable at all. I haven't noticed them doing anything squirrelly on tar snakes either but I haven't really had the bike heeled over either, wanting to get them scuffed in first. My initial impressions are that the bike is extremely neutral handling and well planted to the street. If they wear like the Road 5s did I think I may prefer these but it's early. Anyway, that's my two cents.tires 1.jpg - Bild entfernt (keine Rechte)tires 2.jpg - Bild entfernt (keine Rechte)tires 3.jpg - Bild entfernt (keine Rechte)

Scrubbing in a new set of road 6 GTs .....
Originally I was going to go with the Dunlop Mutants but when we actually checked the set they had, they were for a GS (21" front) .... So I went with the road 6 gts and I rode them a fair amount today and I like them very much .... The Metzlers had 3106 miles and were fairly dangerous at this point, requiring much counter-steering at relatively lower speeds ... Were having some pretty fair weather here and I've been doing a little riding, and I really wanted to get those changed out before spring, just to be ready ...
The metzlers were decent tires but the victims of aggressive braking in the front. I'm still getting used to the massive power of modern front brakes. And I tend to use only the front brake, just using the rear brake for a rudder effect so to speak The rear tire was just starting to flatten a bit but could have been ran with just a new front tire for sure, it had a lot of tread left ....
I know there are guy's who like the Metzlers 01s and they were just fine in the beginning performing very sticky in the curves and all that, i don't have any real problems with them. Lets face it you can shred tires on these super bikes in minutes under race conditions anyway ....
BMW Denver was very apologetic for setting up an appointment with the wrong tire size. I hope no one got in trouble as i did say I was only leaning toward the Mutants and had extensively studied both the road 6 and the mutants so it was no problem at all for me. They gave me a great deal on them and knocked off some as well.
So it was about 617.37 for both, and mounted and balanced and I brought the bike in with an appointment, so that was great ....
So they also have O% financing on 2023 GSs right now , very tempting indeed. Ride a 23 GS for a couple of years and then trade it on the 1300 .... pretty sweet.

....... Nearly 500 quid for a set of tyres?

Blimey.

About £330 over here, ride in, ride but at an independent tyre fitter. ........

Well the retail is at least a hundred more for each tire and I had a couple of sources on that. I also heard today that tires ordered in big lots for oem or specialty shops like tires direct are often not as good even though marked the same ... And so that would put them at nearly 300 for the front and 400 for the back plus labor .... Do you have some examples of better deals on road 6 GTs? from a dealer?
I know your an Avon man but I think but one must compare apples to apples. I understand people will have to budget to get thru having bikes at all and I myself used to visit Steeles Motorcycle Salvage yard here in Denver to pull off used tires off of junk bikes to put on my /5 airhead. I was going thru several sets a season, had little money ....
They also did a multi point inspection as well. The mutants would have been cheaper and I think the road 5s are also cheaper if you need that ... I'm hoping the GTs will hold up better to deformation which causes the cupping ... one needs to stay safe out there ...

Am about to pop some new tyres on the bike, probably going for Road 6. I gather the GTs are for heavier bikes is that right, any reason you went for the GTs over the standard Roads? The GTs are a bit more expensive.