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Wed Feb 02, 2022 2:31 am
Zitat von Richard230 im Beitrag #15 I agree there. L2 chargers are fine at home for overnight charging, but that rate is useless for a public charger.
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Zitat von Paul911 im Beitrag #16Zitat von Richard230 im Beitrag #15 But, I leave the house I have a full charge. That's the change. Unless you're traveling out of range of your house (or hotel, etc) which the rare trip, you'll never need a public charger.
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Zitat von Richard230 im Beitrag #15 I concur 100%. Level 2 chargers in the wild are useless. They may be of use at hotels for an overnight stay. They may be of use at your place of employment as a perk. With modern BEV having a range of at least 250 miles, picking up a few miles of charge at a level 2 while getting groceries is needless. The vast majority of BEV in the US are charged at home. I'm on a local (Minnesota) FB group for Tesla owners. Every several days someone, usually new to Tesla, posts of petitioning for a Tesla Supercharger to be built in their city. My answer is always: I don't want/need a Tesla Supercharger, level 3 near me. I need a Tesla Supercharger every 100-150 miles from me. I'm never popular when I express my opinion on public L2 chargers either. One of the things I hear repeated is: what if I forget to charge at home? <laughing, shaking head> It's all about battery management. Usually they post a screenshot of their car battery at <20% state of charge...and I look up and see their phone is at about the same state of charge. The irony.
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Just read this morning the that Foxconn has taken over the Lordstown pickup manufacturing and will be producing units before the end of the year. Foxconn is the HUGE Taiwanese/Chinese contract manufacture behind much/most of Apple product manufacture and other. They promised to invest in US based manufacturing and it seems Lordstown is part of this commitment. |
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Zitat von MrVvrroomm im Beitrag #18 I guess I"ve been conditioned by years of riding BMW's with an accessory plug. At the end of day, park the bike in the garage and attach the Battery Tender. It's just routine and the battery is usually ready to go..........regardless of the time since the last ride.
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But when the public starts buying electric trucks and motor homes and tries to do what they do now on trips with their ICE vehicles they are going to need more robust on-the-road charging facilities. The U.S. government plans to build tens of thousands of charging stations around the country and those will not be sited in your garage or at your place of employment. They need to be out in the boondocks where money-making commercial stations are not located.
Current motorcycle collection: 2002 Yamaha FZ1; 2020 KTM 390 Duke; 2011 Royal Enfield Bullet 500; 2009 BMW F650GS; 2016 BMW R1200RS; 2018 Zero S 16.6 kWh
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Zitat von Vtbob im Beitrag #19 Mentioning Foxconn doesn't make me confident in your prediction.............
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Zitat von Richard230 im Beitrag #21 Why does this sound like an Interstate truck stop? Old Forum Orphan |
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Level 3 charging will be the challenge and opportunity . |
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Zitat von Mr. 36654 im Beitrag #22Zitat von Vtbob im Beitrag #19 Good point Why Foxconn has huge manufacturing, sourcing, supply chain, financial strength and expertise...I'm not sure where they are on EV design.. Interesting times of great change. |
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Zitat von Vtbob im Beitrag #24 If you consider the map of existing Tesla Superchargers (which seem to be placed along the interstates), I would argue the charger network for non-commercial vehicles exists. Do you need L3 chargers in town? I don't see the compelling need. But, campgrounds and hotels could definitely offer the service as an incentive.
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Zitat von Vtbob im Beitrag #25Zitat von Mr. 36654 im Beitrag #22Zitat von Vtbob im Beitrag #19 I know they build Iphones, but they're also great at talking a big game, soliciting a lot of tax incentives and then failing to deliver......
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Zitat von Richard230 im Beitrag #1 They used the wrong picture for the article.
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Zitat von Vtbob im Beitrag #19 From what I can find, Foxxconn is buying Lordstown for both the factory and the Lordstown pickup design. w w w.caranddriver.com/lordstown/endurance Also, it looks like Foxxconn has factories in a lot of other countries also, but has never made anything automotive related. They've also been a contract manufacturer of electronic devices for Apple and others, as you mentioned. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn#United_States
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EV Technology is advancing at a blistering pace. Maybe first is not best or even the most significant. |
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