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Zitat von GordonH im Beitrag #30 I thought about that as it does potentially make the bike more reliable for long term ownership, and certainly makes things more affordable, but I definitely want some of the optional features, and once you start selecting a few options from one of the pre-defined packages, it can become more cost effective to add the whole package. I would definitely want ESA despite the risk of expensive failures because I switch frequently between solo and two-up, for example my wife often flies out to meet me on European trips to avoid the long slog South, and I wouldn't want to be faffing about making manual adjustments to damping and preload mid-trip - I've done that with previous bikes and found it a pain. I have been very impressed by how well the GS handles the change from solo to two-up and vice-versa with its fully automatic adjustments, so I'm pleased the RS can now have these features. |
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#32 | RE: R1250RS UK spec and pricing anomaly
Thu Dec 20, 2018 4:50 pm (Last edited: Thu Dec 20, 2018 5:09 pm)
Thu Dec 20, 2018 4:50 pm (Last edited: Thu Dec 20, 2018 5:09 pm)
Zitat von Tony101 im Beitrag #32 Do you get electronic damper adjustment on yours Tony? Ged
2017 R1200RS grey/white/red. Blue 1250RS coming.
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#34 | RE: R1250RS UK spec and pricing anomaly
Fri Dec 21, 2018 2:29 am (Last edited: Fri Dec 21, 2018 2:32 am)
Fri Dec 21, 2018 2:29 am (Last edited: Fri Dec 21, 2018 2:32 am)
Zitat von Tony101 im Beitrag #32 The extra weight which necessitates extra preload ideally requires corresponding adjustments to the rebound and compression damping to get decent handling, and this is very difficult to get right when almost doubling the weight on the bike when adding a pillion and luggage, especially with the often limited adjustment available - at least that is what I have found on previous bikes with manual damping and preload adjustment. I have found that the ESA auto damping adjustment and auto-preload on my current GS does an excellent job of this, to the point that there is very little impact on handling from adding a pillion and luggage, and I expect this to be the case on the similarly equipped R1250RS which I have ordered. This may not be much of a consideration for people who never ride with a pillion, and can stick with the same manual settings most of the time, but for me auto adjustment is the way to go. |
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#35 | RE: R1250RS UK spec and pricing anomaly
Fri Dec 21, 2018 9:59 am (Last edited: Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:03 am)
Fri Dec 21, 2018 9:59 am (Last edited: Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:03 am)
Zitat von fred_jb im Beitrag #31Zitat von GordonH im Beitrag #30 Hi Fred I can understand those benefits to you. I've been running a RS SE spec on a PCP plan and I'm looking to replace it for the minimum cost to change (the numbers suggest its more cost effective to replace than pay off the bubble - by my man maths at least..) as this would give me a new bike with the new 3 year warranty, which would effectively be my "10 year" bike. As I'm looking to retire early in a couple of years, this would also help the bank balance...or at least let me spend more of my time touring! Reflecting which of the SE spec extras that I've truly found useful, I'm coming to the conclusion that the only "must haves" are heated grips, pannier mounts and rack (and I'd drop the pannier mounts if I couldn't take my BM panniers with me to the new bike and replace them with a set of Shads). Although useful, and great fun (power shift and dynamic "blipping") all the rest (power shift, dynamic modes, LED indicators, etc etc) full in to the "wants" category and dropping them would result in a technically more simpler bike for the long term. Cruise control is the only one I'm on the fence with. Most of my miles are one up touring or local journeys and I like my bikes "simple". |
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One issue to near in mind when going for the spec level is the resale/trade in value after two or three years. I know someone who works for a BMW dealer. They refer to the basic models as the pauper versions and they are much harder to shift second hand because most people want all the bells and whistles. This is then reflected in the trade in value. |
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#37 | RE: R1250RS UK spec and pricing anomaly
Fri Dec 21, 2018 1:17 pm (Last edited: Fri Dec 21, 2018 1:18 pm)
Fri Dec 21, 2018 1:17 pm (Last edited: Fri Dec 21, 2018 1:18 pm)
Zitat von Keith R im Beitrag #36 You're absolutely right. My basic model cost two grand less than the bells and whistles job. Three years later it's worth £1000 less as a trade in. I reckon that still puts me £1000 ahead of the game, or to put it another way, 50 tanks of fuel / 9000 miles. |
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Zitat von GordonH im Beitrag #35 What is your bubble or GFV? What would be offered as a trade in against a new bike? Is there a positive difference in your favour as you suggest? How much is this difference. We need to see the back of that envelope. |
