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A little update on my 1500 mile Michelin road 5 tyres,

I'm a Michelin fan and have been for a long time but this time i'm somewhat disillusioned.

After 200 miles I had a breakaway on the rear tyre, just lost grip on a dry road on a corner,

Again it happened at about 400 miles, both times I went back and inspected road to see the reason, both on dry tarmac, no oil etc.

last weekend on a corner in the wet I lost the grip again on the back for some 10 feet, bike going sideways then recovered, again no oil or road seams, or paint, nothing.

Its very worrying to say the least, total loss of confidence in them.

Ged

Zitat von boxter im Beitrag #1

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A little update on my 1500 mile Michelin road 5 tyres,

I'm a Michelin fan and have been for a long time but this time i'm somewhat disillusioned.

After 200 miles I had a breakaway on the rear tyre, just lost grip on a dry road on a corner,

Again it happened at about 400 miles, both times I went back and inspected road to see the reason, both on dry tarmac, no oil etc.

last weekend on a corner in the wet I lost the grip again on the back for some 10 feet, bike going sideways then recovered, again no oil or road seams, or paint, nothing.

Its very worrying to say the least, total loss of confidence in them.

Ged

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I’ve done 5000+ miles on mine, mainly dry but some damp and wet as well. Never had a problem and feel more confident on the 5s than the 4s, especially the front.
Which of course could be the problem, the front gives you the confidence to push it just that bit more. I rider like a spinster so pushing a bit more still leaves plenty of margin. If you ride like a proper sports bike, power ranger suit refugee, then you might just have found the limit of adhesion.
Congratulations! I’m in awe!

Zitat von Oscarguitar im Beitrag #3

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I’ve done 5000+ miles on mine, mainly dry but some damp and wet as well. Never had a problem and feel more confident on the 5s than the 4s, especially the front.
Which of course could be the problem, the front gives you the confidence to push it just that bit more. I rider like a spinster so pushing a bit more still leaves plenty of margin. If you ride like a proper sports bike, power ranger suit refugee, then you might just have found the limit of adhesion.
Congratulations! I’m in awe!

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Zitat von Oscarguitar im Beitrag #3

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I’ve done 5000+ miles on mine, mainly dry but some damp and wet as well. Never had a problem and feel more confident on the 5s than the 4s, especially the front.
Which of course could be the problem, the front gives you the confidence to push it just that bit more. I rider like a spinster so pushing a bit more still leaves plenty of margin. If you ride like a proper sports bike, power ranger suit refugee, then you might just have found the limit of adhesion.
Congratulations! I’m in awe!

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Worth emailing Michelin for comment, maybe?
I've found their customer service helpline pretty good in the past

Zitat von boxter im Beitrag #1

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I'm a Michelin fan. last weekend on a corner in the wet I lost the grip again on the back for some 10 feet, bike going sideways then recovered.

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+1 from me on not liking the Road 5 despite being more than happy with the previous generations of Pilot Road.

Similar issues for me, I replaced my Road 4 tyres with some Road 5 for my tour of Scotland and had a hand-full of unexpected small rear tyre break aways under not much load (other than my fat carcass and luggage on the bike). After 400 miles riding around the roads of north west Scotland including a fair number of lowish speed single track roads, the rear and to a lesser extent the front were graining on the edge of the tyre as though I had been around a race track. I've done about 3k mikes on them and the front is near the wear markers now, despite the previous Road 4s lasting 6k miles plus.

Again, I've not ridden very hard on the road 5s because I simply don't trust them any more.

Perhaps we have suffered from a bad batch, but I'm not prepared to waste good money on another set of Road 5s to find out. I'll be going back to Road 4 shortly.

Paul

Zitat von IPaul im Beitrag #8

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+1 from me on not liking the Road 5 despite being more than happy with the previous generations of Pilot Road.

Similar issues for me, I replaced my Road 4 tyres with some Road 5 for my tour of Scotland and had a hand-full of unexpected small rear tyre break aways under not much load (other than my fat carcass and luggage on the bike). After 400 miles riding around the roads of north west Scotland including a fair number of lowish speed single track roads, the rear and to a lesser extent the front were graining on the edge of the tyre as though I had been around a race track. I've done about 3k mikes on them and the front is near the wear markers now, despite the previous Road 4s lasting 6k miles plus.

Again, I've not ridden very hard on the road 5s because I simply don't trust them any more.

Perhaps we have suffered from a bad batch, but I'm not prepared to waste good money on another set of Road 5s to find out. I'll be going back to Road 4 shortly.

Paul

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Zitat von Oscarguitar im Beitrag #3

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I’ve done 5000+ miles on mine, mainly dry but some damp and wet as well. Never had a problem and feel more confident on the 5s than the 4s, especially the front.
Which of course could be the problem, the front gives you the confidence to push it just that bit more. I rider like a spinster so pushing a bit more still leaves plenty of margin. If you ride like a proper sports bike, power ranger suit refugee, then you might just have found the limit of adhesion.
Congratulations! I’m in awe!

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Spinster....... it's a while since I heard that word. Ten points for using it.

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Zitat von Freddyfruitbat im Beitrag #6

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Worth emailing Michelin for comment, maybe?
I've found their customer service helpline pretty good in the past

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Zitat von GordonH im Beitrag #10

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Zitat von Bravo im Beitrag #4

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Zitat von Oscarguitar im Beitrag #3

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I’ve done 5000+ miles on mine, mainly dry but some damp and wet as well. Never had a problem and feel more confident on the 5s than the 4s, especially the front.
Which of course could be the problem, the front gives you the confidence to push it just that bit more. I rider like a spinster so pushing a bit more still leaves plenty of margin. If you ride like a proper sports bike, power ranger suit refugee, then you might just have found the limit of adhesion.
Congratulations! I’m in awe!

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Spinster....... it's a while since I heard that word. Ten points for using it.

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“spinster of this parish”

Do I get an extra 30 points?

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Zitat von boxter im Beitrag #12

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Zitat von Freddyfruitbat im Beitrag #6

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Worth emailing Michelin for comment, maybe?
I've found their customer service helpline pretty good in the past

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I have been in touch with Mich and Tony replied today, a very polite email, gist of it is they have extensively tested them and had no loss of grip. but said it could be a case fault but unlikely saying let motorrad have a butchers, otherwise a tyre pick up, this having got on the tyre edge maybe in the corner before and as I bank it causes breaks away.

As previously mentioned by another member the outer edges does look like its been on track, my worry is if you do go to the outside of the tyre in the wet there is no tread, just slick

Ged

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Zitat von Bravo im Beitrag #14

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They get frazzled on the edges because it's a nice soft grippy compound. On mine you can feel and see a ridge where the compounds meet. If I remember I'll post some piccies when I get home the weekend.

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