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Mon Oct 18, 2021 1:53 pm
Zitat von Ali-bear im Beitrag #270 If your round trip daily commute is within the range of your EV, I doubt you'll go through the hassle of charging away from home. Of course, in some parts of the US, it's illegal to resale electricity, so the price to charge is just the price to park.
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Zitat von Ali-bear im Beitrag #270 I think electric motorcycles work well for commuting. I started riding an electric motorcycle in 2009 and have done so ever since then. The first electric motorcycle I owned was a 2009 Electric Motorsport GPR-S. It was assembled in Oakland, CA, from a pile of off-the-shelf electrical parts which were installed into a chassis imported from the Tiger motorcycle company in Thailand. It used Hi Power brand lithium batteries, which were pretty much a piece of crap and were not up to the task of powering an EV. They failed within 1K miles and the company's "guarantee" didn't seem to cover batteries - or much else for that matter. However, while it was running it could take me the 10 miles from home to work and back. At work I would park the bike on the sidewalk next to my window and run a long extension cord from the outlet under my desk, through the adjacent window and recharge the bike for the next four hours. Photo attached. BTW, a lot has changed over the past 12 years. That GPR-S had a range of 20 miles at 35 mph. My current 2018 Zero has gone as far as 150 miles without needing to be recharged at a similar speed. One of these days in the future (such as when the sale of gas-powered motorcycles are outlawed in 2035) their utility for all types of riding might approach that of internal combustion motorcycles. But right now commuting and local travel is your best bet. IMG_1237.JPG - Bild entfernt (keine Rechte) Current motorcycle collection: 2002 Yamaha FZ1; 2020 KTM 390 Duke; 2011 Royal Enfield Bullet 500; 2009 BMW F650GS; 2016 BMW R1200RS; 2018 Zero S 16.6 kWh |
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Yes I mean even with free (to me) energy it still doesn't make financial sense - the cost of even a modest electric push bike would far outweigh the reduction in my petrol bills - car or bike. |
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Zitat von Ali-bear im Beitrag #273 Completely unexpected, my 17-yo manual transmission car was replaced with a plug-in Hybrid last December. The PHEV version was the same price as the ICE version at the time. My commute is a bit more than the all-e range, so I recharge at home and buy some gas every few months
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Here is a link to a Popular Science magazine article discussing Zero's 2022 battery improvements: https://www.popsci.com/technology/zero-m...w-battery-tech/
Current motorcycle collection: 2002 Yamaha FZ1; 2020 KTM 390 Duke; 2011 Royal Enfield Bullet 500; 2009 BMW F650GS; 2016 BMW R1200RS; 2018 Zero S 16.6 kWh
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Here is a neat use of Zero motorcycles being tested by the U.S. Special Forces. Carrying them on a helicopter. It sure beats hiking in the desert. https://electrek.co/2021/11/17/special-f...ic-motorcycles/
Current motorcycle collection: 2002 Yamaha FZ1; 2020 KTM 390 Duke; 2011 Royal Enfield Bullet 500; 2009 BMW F650GS; 2016 BMW R1200RS; 2018 Zero S 16.6 kWh
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Polaris has partnered with Zero (who builds electric motorcycles in California) and is using their electric motors and batteries in their new all-electric off-road work vehicle that they call the RANGER XP Kinetic. Here is a link to their promotional video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3gOOT3vPJ4&t=82s
Current motorcycle collection: 2002 Yamaha FZ1; 2020 KTM 390 Duke; 2011 Royal Enfield Bullet 500; 2009 BMW F650GS; 2016 BMW R1200RS; 2018 Zero S 16.6 kWh
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I was fascinated to read in an article recently published by RevZilla regarding the 2022 Zero models that all you need to do to get heated grips on the bikes was to purchase a firmware download. Apparently, all the 2022 Zeros have heat panels molded into their grips, which can be turned on by just a over-the-air firmware download after paying their Cyber+ store for the $195 firmware upgrade.
Current motorcycle collection: 2002 Yamaha FZ1; 2020 KTM 390 Duke; 2011 Royal Enfield Bullet 500; 2009 BMW F650GS; 2016 BMW R1200RS; 2018 Zero S 16.6 kWh
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Zitat von Richard230 im Beitrag #278 Remember that $295 software upgrade we were offered for something or the other on our quick shifter?
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Zitat von Mr. 36654 im Beitrag #279Zitat von Richard230 im Beitrag #278 I don't remember that one, but we did receive a card in the mail saying we could get ABS Pro with a software upload for $485. I was too cheap to pay $970. We have ABS Pro now but it cost around $40,000 
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Zitat von Mr. 36654 im Beitrag #279Zitat von Richard230 im Beitrag #278 I am well aware of that as I also paid for the quick-shifter upgrade that did not require any additional parts installed but instead the feature was unlocked by a software download - including almost 10% sales tax. But even BMW doesn't add heated grips to all of their models when they leave the factory and then sells a computer code unlock to make them function. That was what I found interesting. I imagine that someone is going to get those heated grips working without paying for the software to do so. 
Current motorcycle collection: 2002 Yamaha FZ1; 2020 KTM 390 Duke; 2011 Royal Enfield Bullet 500; 2009 BMW F650GS; 2016 BMW R1200RS; 2018 Zero S 16.6 kWh
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Zitat von Lee im Beitrag #280Zitat von Mr. 36654 im Beitrag #279Zitat von Richard230 im Beitrag #278 $295 or $485...........we're talking BMW! That's a round-off error. So, in case they offer a discount in the future to owners of nearly 6-yo bikes, ABS pro does what for me?
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Zitat von Mr. 36654 im Beitrag #282 Ironically, just had the software installed today after a late season trip with some especially spirited riding including a fair amount of dirt and gravel. It's for those emergency, in-turn braking sessions to keep us safe(r) from either washing out or standing the bike up. I had these notes from the original press release in 2014, when I was looking hard at a 2015 S1000RR for touring. (The following year, they eliminated the possibility of even soft SW Motech luggage by raising the muffler, and I was talked into trying out the new boxer RS....) The system pulls in data from the front and rear wheel speed sensors, brake pressure sensors, and the roll, yaw and transverse acceleration sensors from the bike's traction control system to get a very accurate picture of how fast the bike is turning, and how far it's leaned over. The system then adjusts the maximum allowable brake pressure gradient, as well as how smoothly the ABS system intervenes in the braking process, to enable the best possible stopping power under the circumstances. The system also helps to proportion braking between the front and rear wheels in order to stop the bike from pushing itself upright on the brakes.
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