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#1 | BoosterPlug datum

Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:52 am (Last edited: Tue Nov 29, 2022 9:07 am)

Hi All has any one fitted a BOOSTERPLUG BMW R1250RS (2018-2020) and if so did it make the bike run better? https://www.boosterplug.com/shop/booster...250rs-769p.html

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#2 | RE: BoosterPlug datum

Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:36 pm

can you see this post from UKGSer in a 7 page thread?
https://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread...l=1#post5573406

Summary: any benefit is short term after starting the bike as the ECU adjusts to compensate for the change in mixture

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#3 | RE: BoosterPlug datum

Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:36 pm

Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #2
can you see this post from UKGSer in a 7 page thread?
https://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread...l=1#post5573406

Summary: any benefit is short term after starting the bike as the ECU adjusts to compensate for the change in mixture

Yep.

Zitat
No need to spend a small fortune on complicated devices like the Power Commander + endless Dyno hours, to make your bike run like it should have from the factory.

The point for a Power Commander is to have a module that intervenes between the ECU and the fuel system. The ECU doesn't know the data is being modified and doesn't adjust accordingly. The module translates the data back to the ECU so it all looks normal. Anything that doesn't do this will be circumvented as soon as the ECU learns of the modification.

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#4 | RE: BoosterPlug datum

Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:54 pm (Last edited: Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:55 pm)

Zitat von zer0netgain im Beitrag #3
Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #2
can you see this post from UKGSer in a 7 page thread?
https://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread...l=1#post5573406

Summary: any benefit is short term after starting the bike as the ECU adjusts to compensate for the change in mixture

Yep.

Zitat
No need to spend a small fortune on complicated devices like the Power Commander + endless Dyno hours, to make your bike run like it should have from the factory.

The point for a Power Commander is to have a module that intervenes between the ECU and the fuel system. The ECU doesn't know the data is being modified and doesn't adjust accordingly. The module translates the data back to the ECU so it all looks normal. Anything that doesn't do this will be circumvented as soon as the ECU learns of the modification.

The ECU varies the mixture as a result of a few feedback loops including what it gets back from the O2 and temp sensors. How does this device deal with that?

Changing the data the ECU uses (the "map") seems like a better solution and that's what the typical ECU flash does. Of course, flashing the map the ECU uses is easier said than done.

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#5 | RE: BoosterPlug datum

Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:23 pm

Zitat von Paul911 im Beitrag #4
The ECU varies the mixture as a result of a few feedback loops including what it gets back from the O2 and temp sensors. How does this device deal with that?

Changing the data the ECU uses (the "map") seems like a better solution and that's what the typical ECU flash does. Of course, flashing the map the ECU uses is easier said than done.

Sorry for giving an oversimplified explanation.

Devices like the Power Commander operate as an intermediary between the ECU and ALL systems related to the values it can modify. The ECU doesn't know the module is there because the data it gets back reflects what it believes it sent. So, the ECU sends a value of 4 and the module converts it to 4.6...and the returned data of 4.6 is converted back to 4 so the ECU is none the wiser. This lets the ECU deal with changes in temperature, O2 levels, air pressure, etc. because the ECU has the correct data and the module applies the adjustments as needed.

These modules are handy because they prevent voiding a warranty by trying to directly alter the ECU. If your bike runs like crap after a change to the MAP file, clear it (or load a zero map...a map with no modifications) to easily restore things to normal operation and try again.

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#6 | RE: BoosterPlug datum

Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:25 pm

Zitat von Paul911 im Beitrag #4
Zitat von zer0netgain im Beitrag #3
Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #2
can you see this post from UKGSer in a 7 page thread?
https://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread...l=1#post5573406

Summary: any benefit is short term after starting the bike as the ECU adjusts to compensate for the change in mixture

Yep.

Zitat
No need to spend a small fortune on complicated devices like the Power Commander + endless Dyno hours, to make your bike run like it should have from the factory.

The point for a Power Commander is to have a module that intervenes between the ECU and the fuel system. The ECU doesn't know the data is being modified and doesn't adjust accordingly. The module translates the data back to the ECU so it all looks normal. Anything that doesn't do this will be circumvented as soon as the ECU learns of the modification.

The ECU varies the mixture as a result of a few feedback loops including what it gets back from the O2 and temp sensors. How does this device deal with that?

Changing the data the ECU uses (the "map") seems like a better solution and that's what the typical ECU flash does. Of course, flashing the map the ECU uses is easier said than done.

According to the boosterplug info, it's only adding an Intake Air Temperature sensor.

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#7 | RE: BoosterPlug datum

Wed Nov 30, 2022 1:22 pm (Last edited: Wed Nov 30, 2022 1:24 pm)

Zitat von Austourer im Beitrag #1
Hi All has any one fitted a BOOSTERPLUG BMW R1250RS (2018-2020) and if so did it make the bike run better? https://www.boosterplug.com/shop/booster...250rs-769p.html

Define better. Solutions like this can be effective if you are looking to correct a specific problem. A similar item (AF-XiED O2 Sensor Manipulator) fixed a nasty mid-range lag on my K1300S. If you are looking for a general improvement ( "more power" or "better") you will likely be disappointed.

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