R1200RS + R1250RS Forum
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Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:55 pm
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Should I be slapped? I think I know the answer.
I'd rather be on my bike thinking about god than in church thinking about my bike
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I bought a very good used example and it starting ghosting a short time into my ownership. My mate did similar and his has ben absolutely fine. |
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Used Nav5 works all the time and the wonder wheel can be used on the 5. |
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I’m on my 4th one (3 replacements). This one seems to be keeping it together. Garmin has essentially lost a long time customer with this design.
I’m a Notary Public. RESPECT MY AUTHORITY!
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Zitat von maxredline im Beitrag #1 In the US Garmin has been good about replacing the faulty Nav VI units. I don't think I would pay more than $500 knowing you might have to send it in for a replacement sometime. The Nav V rarely have any problems and used ones go for $300 to $350 in the US.
Lee
2022 R1250RS Iowa, USA |
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Zitat von Lee im Beitrag #7Zitat von maxredline im Beitrag #1 My Nav V has failed. Where's the best place to look for a used replacement? |
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I bought a new Nav6 in late ~2017 and sold it late 2020. It was a great unit. Only issue I had was a bad battery, which Garmin replaced, no issue.
now: 2020 R1250RS
then: 2015 K1600GT, 1999 VFR800, 1994 VFR750 |
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Zitat von Lee im Beitrag #7 That they have…of course it may be more to avoid a greater PR disaster and potential litigation under lemon laws. I’d not pay the full retail for a new Nav VI, but it simply isn’t worth the $1,000 USD retail price for what you get. Zitat von backRoadS im Beitrag #9 My issue with the Nav VI has always been one of quality control. I have a Zumo 660, and yes, the Nav VI is way nicer, BUT it fails in aspects the 660 does flawlessly…telling me someone didn’t think it through or made broad assumptions when testing for release. 1. Music/phone only over Bluetooth…no audio out/in port. I placed the Nav VI in a 660 cradle and the audio out worked fine…so it’s a cradle design choice. I got way better quality from directly plugging into the audio port on the cradle harness than ever with Bluetooth. Granted, no phone, but I largely ignored that. If a call came in that looked important, I’d pull over and call back. 2. Along with the above, a fractional second “dead air” gap at the start of each song. My 2 cents is that the Bluetooth protocol saves power by shutting down (or low power mode) when not actively using the connection. It doesn’t mess with warnings, calls, driving instructions because the GPS knows to delay playback until Bluetooth is up and running, and phone calls are there by the time you answer the call. Music, however, moves on without waiting for the connection to reestablish itself…and it “shuts down” between each song. It’s taken me a couple of years to override my OCD and just accept it as normal, but for a $1,000 unit, this is unacceptable. My 660 is over 12 years old and doesn’t do this. 3. Even more so…no way to make playlists off GPS. I followed the instructions…GPS will not recognize the file. There must be hidden code that a text file doesn’t reflect. Even modifying a playlist created on the GPS makes it unplayable. “So,” you say in a valiant effort to defend Garmin’s honor, “just make the playlist on the GPS.” Well, here’s the stinker. It doesn’t work. I have HUNDREDS of songs for listening enjoyment. If you add songs to a playlist on most any other device, it will automatically arrange files according to track number…in that much at least. Some even add levels of segregation by artist and album title. On the Nav VI, you add an album, the tracks arrange by whatever order the GPS feels like doing, then you edit the playlist to put them in the correct order. On my last replacement, I didn’t back up my playlist files to PC (stored on the unit and not the memory card), and I spent two hours reconstructing all of my playlists. To add new media, I copy it to the GPS then manually add it via the touchscreen. I care not that the Nav VI has a nicer, larger screen…it’s still a pain to make playlists by this process. None of the above issues with my 12-year-old+ 660. 4. Problematic power button. Located where you can’t reach it when locked in the cradle. So, you have a low battery…it won’t turn on automatically once sufficiently charged (like my 660) and no way to manually cycle it on. You have to shut off the bike and turn it back on that way. Same deal with powering off. Asks TWICE to do this…when you cycle off the power to the bike and when the CANBUS cuts power to the cradle. You have to wait for the second prompt so it doesn’t turn off when you want it on, and to turn it off after you’re done, you have to cycle on then off the bike’s power. Oh, and never do this too fast. If your bike cuts power before the GPS is sufficiently “awake,” it misses the signal and never shuts off…or asks to shut off. All they had to do was put the power switch where we could reach it when in cradle. 5. (Minor niggle)…the compass face is wrong. Every compass has cardinal directions and numbers facing outward from the center. Whatever is at the top of the dial is properly orientated. The Nav VI has everything facing up. So, unless you’re going north, you’re reading everything at a cocked up angle. This could be fixed with a firmware update, but Garmin won’t do it. I’d expect that from a $200 GPS from WalMart, not a top-of-the-line model from what should be the premier name in GPS technology.
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Zitat von Bikepirate im Beitrag #8 If Garmin will not replace it, look at the Parts section of the Flea Market on the Adventure Rider forum. https://www.advrider.com/f/forums/bike-p...accessories.53/
Lee
2022 R1250RS Iowa, USA |
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I bought a used Nav V about 2 years ago. I have no idea how old it is but I've had no problems with it. Like many have noted, phone navigators are probably more user friendly but I like to go out and purposely get lost to force myself to find new road. When I start getting tired I roll the wheel to "home" and head in. I just leave the Nav locked in the cradle. |
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I’ve enjoyed a nearly-new NAV6 for 3 years.
Carpe Diem!
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Zitat von zer0netgain im Beitrag #11 @zer0netgain points out something I've selectively forgotten. The BT on Nav 6 was BAD. and was actually the motivating reason I switched to XT. My audio setup is, uh, unique. but with Nav6, quite often, when the voice would announce or my radar detector would cut it out. it "hung" in a useless Bt state, blocking itself and the RD from reaching my helmet. grr I also echo the inability to load my Apple Music library and playlists. grrr the XT, however, while not perfect either, does not create a hung state, loads my Apple Music Library AND allows me to use it as BT source switch between my phone and SXM. now if I could only get my phone to default to sending audio to the Nav XT instead of the TFT....
now: 2020 R1250RS
then: 2015 K1600GT, 1999 VFR800, 1994 VFR750 |
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