Tyres, Brakes and Suspension » Anyone ride in the road setting?

I just got back from a back road ride (on unfamiliar roads) and couldn't get the suspension to work well.
I keep it in dynamic damping all the time normally (auto on the preload), but the roads were so bad I tried road setting. WOW, it was unusable! The rebound was so fast and underdamped I felt like it would bounce me out of the saddle. On more washboard sections it would pogo. Is there a setting I'm missing? Do others use the road mode? I generally love the ride, but I don't normally travel on rough roads. I was looking for twisty roads but these were so rough they were wearing me out (gravel stretches mixed in too).
Hoping for a fix, or I'll just have to be more careful on road choices (Motorrad app set to winding, no gravel)

Hey puffdaddy, I'll admit that I use Road setting most of the time, playing around with Rain or Dynamic on a few but rare occasions.

I don't experience the problems you mention, but maybe my riding is too "tame" to notice the difference? It will be interesting to see what experiences others have.

Haven't had much experience with my 3 days old 1250, but the 1200's D-ESA is quite familiar. Road: Too much high-speed damping (harsh on bumps and holes) and too little low-speed damping (sloppy chassis movements). Dynamic: Too much high-speed damping and reasonable low-speed damping. This big difference between low and high speed damping (speed as in suspension travel, not the vehicle moving forward) is something I would have expected from a damper-rod fork or a shock without shim-stacked valves.

Perhaps an undue comparison: My old F800, with Öhlins at the rear and cartridges up front, had no such issues. The adjustments were all physical wheels and knobs, though.

I can live with this and ride around the limitations, and I like the rest of the bike - including the D-ESA functionality. But I wish they had applied the latter to something less in need of improvement.

I do use road about half the time and it is my default setting. I switch to dynamic when the going gets more sporty. Both work well for me.
I'm talking about the riding mode here but this also goes for the ESA. I have it in road/road or dynamic/dynamic.
I also use rain riding mode sometimes

Road setting (ESA) 95% of the time. Dynamic very occasionally just because it’s there and I think I should give it a try. Roads round here are contested and the surfaces are ‘variable’. I find ‘Road’ far more usable for the conditions and my style (ha ha) of riding.

For me it is DYNAMIC top right of the screen on my 1250RS plus Road for the suspension setting. I swap to Dynamic for the suspension setting when riding "enthusiastically".

I keep meaning to investigate Dynamic Pro properly.

Chris

I have a 2017 RS and use road/road on almost all journeys.
Solo use but I set up one helmet plus luggage (my weight is 14st) and I find this fine for all use, motorway, touring, sub 50mph across dartmoor.
On my europe trips I just move to two helmet display when loaded and back to solo plus when riding out from campsites.
I do 'play around' with dynamic/user etc but as most of my use is sub 5,000 rpm I really never get near the bikes abilities, although rain setting used in rain and boarding for metal decked ferries.
I also make a full use of all settings as per manual every few tank refills just to hopefully avoiding and locked adjusters.

sI ride almost exclusively in the Road mode. Most of the roads areound here are not really smooth, frost heavs and their result, etc. The dynamic is just to harsh. note the Road mode is also semi adaptive. I notice when riding i
the interstate (smooth) for a while and then getting on a normal poor secondary road. It does pogo for a couple of miles before it adapts with more slow speed dampening.

When I first got my '16 RS I felt the suspension settings were way off for my riding style and 200 lbs. If you have not experimented with the preload by changing the rider settings to two-up, or one up with luggage, give it a try. I ride my bike on all types of roads and when the surface gets very rough and loose the road mode is much more compliant and ESA kicks in earlier which is helpful in these circumstances, but on fast and smooth twisties I am in Dynamic Pro, and set the rider settings for two-up riding to firm up the suspension even further. Lastly, I am running tire pressure down around 36 PSI. This works well for me but your mileage may vary. Once you get the bike sorted out with the rider settings in combination with the ESA settings you will likely find the factory settings get you in the game but they are never going to be as good as a proper suspension sprung and adjusted specifically for your riding needs. I have adjusted my riding style to get the most out of the bike in the settings provided but I love the damn bike so much I feel it's worth giving up pure suspension perfection for ease of adjustment. Good luck to you.

I have my suspension set in Road all the time for comfort... One helmet and luggage for preload as I'm quite large.. (not a 'fatknacker' though!)and the engine in Dynamic.. Programmed into User Mode with Dynamic ESA Pro so I have higher ABS and Dynamic Stability control with More compliant suspension in Road with the most reponsive engine map for instant throttle response.

Wish I could help. I'm often plain vanilla, so I'm in ROAD most all the time...RAIN when it's raining hard or other less-than-ideal road conditions that could mimic rain conditions (e.g., gravel/dirt on road).

I keep my 2016 (April 2015 build with the Sachs suspension components) in the road setting all of the time because the suspension is just too stiff when going over sharp bumps for my weight And it is even slightly worse in the dynamic setting.

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I just got back from a back road ride (on unfamiliar roads) and couldn't get the suspension to work well.
I keep it in dynamic damping all the time normally (auto on the preload), but the roads were so bad I tried road setting.

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2016 RS here in the UK. Road 95% of the time as the road surface makes Dynamic uncomfortable. I'm 11 stone so have preload set to one helmet. Engine mode always Dynamic as I think that it's just 'normal' in reality. I have a User mode of Dynamic with Rain DTC for when conditions are treacherous.

On track in just over a months time. It'll be Dynamic damping there.