RE: Damn kickstand - 2

Zitat von PlacidoD im Beitrag #14

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Zitat von Mr. 36654 im Beitrag #13

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I've been riding BMW since '85. Is that forever?

But, then again, PlacidoD was probably born after that and thinks I'm old as dirt.....

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You are making wholly unwarranted assumptions without any factual basis (Much like your President).

I am on this forum to learn about the bike I ride and, hopefully, contribute something.

I repeat are you suggesting that the side stand is the length it is for no reason and it is a pure design accident which could have been easily remedied when introducing the 1250RS if not before?

Chris

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Zitat von Mr. 36654 im Beitrag #16

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Chris,

Chill. I wasn't dissing you.........too much. As a younger guy, we're happy to have you.

Sidestand engineering is likely one of the lesser departments at BMW and not on the management career path. I'm guessing someone picked the "proper" design for when the suspension is fully extended. Try leaving the ignition on until you dismount.

In my case, I use the center stand because I ride a BMW and that's what I think BMW riders do...... Besides, it's easier to fill the gas tank.

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Zitat von PlacidoD im Beitrag #17

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Zitat von Mr. 36654 im Beitrag #16

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Chris,

Chill. I wasn't dissing you.........too much. As a younger guy, we're happy to have you.

Sidestand engineering is likely one of the lesser departments at BMW and not on the management career path. I'm guessing someone picked the "proper" design for when the suspension is fully extended. Try leaving the ignition on until you dismount.

In my case, I use the center stand because I ride a BMW and that's what I think BMW riders do...... Besides, it's easier to fill the gas tank.

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That makes some sense. Certainly getting the bike on the centre stand is easy enough even with full luggage.

P.S. I usually raise the suspension when dismounting. It also makes it even easier to get on the centre stand!

Chris

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it is easy to fix the side stand issue and also help minimize the forward roll off on slight down hill situation.

Get a decent file and file the side stand metal stops on both the side stand and the corresponding frame stop.

About 5 minutes. Try it if you need more tilt file some more

Problem solved

Zitat von Vtbob im Beitrag #19

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it is easy to fix the side stand issue and also help minimize the forward roll off on slight down hill situation.

Get a decent file and file the side stand metal stops on both the side stand and the corresponding frame stop.

About 5 minutes. Try it if you need more tilt file some more

Problem solved

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Zitat von PlacidoD im Beitrag #14

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are you suggesting that the side stand is the length it is for no reason and it is a pure design accident which could have been easily remedied when introducing the 1250RS if not before?

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Zitat von Freddyfruitbat im Beitrag #21

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One of the previous times this issue was discussed here was in the early days of this forum, and Holger (admin) wrote to BMW head office about it and published the response here - I can't remember the exact wording but as I recall, the gist of it was unapologetic and that the sidestand length was entirely intentional? Maybe someone can find it.

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Zitat von Freddyfruitbat im Beitrag #21

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Zitat von PlacidoD im Beitrag #14

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are you suggesting that the side stand is the length it is for no reason and it is a pure design accident which could have been easily remedied when introducing the 1250RS if not before?

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One of the previous times this issue was discussed here was in the early days of this forum, and Holger (admin) wrote to BMW head office about it and published the response here - I can't remember the exact wording but as I recall, the gist of it was unapologetic and that the sidestand length was entirely intentional? Maybe someone can find it.

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Zitat von Richard230 im Beitrag #23

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Sounds about what I would have expected as a reply from BMW. As a fellow who I know that used to be a free-lance motorcycle reviewer used to say: BMW's response to customer complaints and suggestions is (using a German accent) "We make the perfect motorcycle, the customer knows nothing".

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Zitat von Bunter im Beitrag #24

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Zitat von Richard230 im Beitrag #23

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Sounds about what I would have expected as a reply from BMW. As a fellow who I know that used to be a free-lance motorcycle reviewer used to say: BMW's response to customer complaints and suggestions is (using a German accent) "We make the perfect motorcycle, the customer knows nothing".

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Yeah look at how they are dealing with TFT communications issues!

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This is from my post of April last year. My problem with this piece of puzzling design (I am being polite here) has been completely solved.

"I have just had my side-stand shortened by about 12mm. It is now what it should have been in the first place in my opinion.

I no longer have side-stand anxiety syndrome and feel safe to park anywhere I like. Result! Cost- £95 which seems about right to me. I wonder what it is about this particular model that made BMW assign such a near vertical side- stand to it. Perhaps they thought it was some sort of Ducati competitor or something!"

Zitat von PlacidoD im Beitrag #7

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This is my first boxer BMW. I understand the logic for keeping the bike fairly vertical - to help avoid oil draining into the nearside cylinder. What I am unsure of is what harm that will do? If it will just burn a little oil I can live with that. Is there the potential for more serious harm?

Chris

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Zitat von ChrisA im Beitrag #1

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Broke the right mirror mount and a couple of small scratches. First thought, trip cancelled. Riding with one mirror not a great idea. Second thought, I can modify existing mount to accept mirror again. Second option worked, a little tapping, grinding and it worked great, may not have looked stock but sturdy.
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The first thing I did to my new lupin back in 2015 was to take a grinder to the stand stop. Never a problem. However, when I started it after a week’s inactivity last week it smoked from the left cylinder. I thought they never did that...

Boy Lee, that looks very familiar. I also did the JB weld, but on the safe side as heading out on extended trip drilled and tapped the other side so new bolt tied everything together. Worked fine. Will modify stand over the weekend. Never remembered the RS 1100 having this issue. 80k miles and never worried about it going over center. Not buying the oil seepage, lots of engine applications with oil seal challenges. BMW is generally smarter than that, well there is the silly GPS mount.