R1200RS + R1250RS Forum
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Sat Apr 18, 2020 2:49 pm
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Interesting comparison and outcome, thanks for sharing. |
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It says "...good choice for the ardent tourer"..., but these guys tour ardently without luggage. “A good man always knows his limitations.” |
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Zitat von Ray B im Beitrag #3 I thought about merging the threads but the one you quote starts with a subject not directly related to this group of tyres so I think I will leave as is. The point I raised in the other thread remains. In the previous edition they gave a positive review of the tyre I use, the Avon Storm 3D and suggested people should consider older revisions of tyres if looking for value for money. I see no point in spending an extra £100 on a set of tyres when the Avons, which were the current tyre when my bike was made, suit it perfectly for my mixed use of touring & commuting. Therefore, it would be nice if they included a tyre that is an older design but still current in the line up of these tests. We would then be able to see if the makers' claims of technological improvement is validated or, as I suspect in some cases, flim-flammery from marketing departments. |
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Well I’m going for new tyres as soon as this lockdown things over and I’m inclined to go with Wessie’s advice and try the Avon’s. I’m quite cynical about tyre tests, It must be so subjective and the testers must be quite suggestible to the flim flammery. It would be interesting to see the testing done blind (obviously not literally) so the reviewer doesn’t know what’s fitted until they’ve written down their opinion, then there’d be some real value in including the older tyre version for comparison. |
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Zitat von Nickmiles24 im Beitrag #5I remember that either Cycle or Motorcyclist in the U.S. did a test like that about 30 years ago. Something like 88 tires total from maybe 8 or 10 brands. At the time, the Pirelli Phantom came out on top. The magnitude of the test made it impossible to repeat. With the advancement in tire technology lately it would be a moving target season to season. For probably 95%+ of current riders, any brand name premium tire would do just fine. Frank
2017 R1200RS- 30,000 mi. 2 1/2 yrs.
2003 R1100S Boxer Cup Replika #6/200 1985 K100/1100RS- 326,000 mi. 34 yrs. 2016 R1200RS- 28,322 mi. 18 mo. (gone) 2011 R1200RT- 30,000 mi. 2 yr. (gone) 2005 R1200ST- 58,000 mi. 8 yr. 3rd deer killed it. 1999 R1100S- 15,000 mi. 2 yr. (gone) 1996 Ducati 900SS/SP- 89,000 mi. 12 yr. (gone) 500,000+ BMW miles |
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Zitat von Nickmiles24 im Beitrag #5 20200419_204135.jpg - Bild entfernt (keine Rechte) This photo, from the beginning of the test, says clearly that the test was indeed carried out 'blind'. |
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Zitat von Loftyjohn im Beitrag #9 Do you have any specific examples of where an insurance underwriter has reduced or rejected a claim based on using different tyres on different axles in the UK, where you and I reside? They can only go by construction and use regulations so they might have a point if the tyres are worn out, are not the correct speed rating or mix radial with cross ply on the same vehicle. Just look at many cars in the UK, it is not unusual to have a different make of tyre on each corner but they continue to pass our MOT test. In some countries, using tyres that are not on the approved list for a vehicle and using different makes on different axles is against their local construction and use regulations. I believe Germany is in this category but not the UK. Jim is in Canada, so as long as he is not violating local construction and use regulations then he will be fine to carry on. |
Zitat von Nickmiles24 im Beitrag #5 I've also got the Avon Storm 3D XMs on my RS, and I cannot fault them. Cheers Paul B |
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Zitat von Jim Evans im Beitrag #8 Not from our perspective. Before the miracle of modern rubber, I recall using different brands front and rear to try to get the perfect match.....
“A good man always knows his limitations.”
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