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I have been noticing that my R1250RS with ESA set in the road setting seems to have way too much high speed compression damping (extremely harsh over sharp edge bumps). Seems like a good candidate for Racetech gold valves, but of course they don't make any for the ESA. Has anybody else noticed this?

Thanks

Zitat von Chris216 im Beitrag #1

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I have been noticing that my R1250RS with ESA set in the road setting seems to have way too much high speed compression damping (extremely harsh over sharp edge bumps). Seems like a good candidate for Racetech gold valves, but of course they don't make any for the ESA. Has anybody else noticed this?

Thanks

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[quote=Chris216|p24918]I have been noticing that my R1250RS with ESA set in the road setting seems to have way too much high speed compression damping (extremely harsh over sharp edge bumps). Seems like a good candidate for Racetech gold valves, but of course they don't make any for the ESA. Has anybody else noticed this?

Are you referring to compression while cornering at speed, or also during straights?

Busboy mainly in the straights at legalistic speeds, so it shouldn't be stiffing up thinking I'm riding sporty. Wessie, I'm going to have to look into the software side of things some more, the owners manual isn't the most informative on some things...

I guess you're talking about the front?
I've only just run my new ESA bike in but I'm still totally impressed by the suspension. Puts my other bike to shame.

I've long realized this in my 2016 RS. I addressed and fixed this in my old F650GS twin. I put a wilbers shock on the rear with adjustable compression and REBOUND dampening. Also Emulators in the front . I found that adjustable REBOUND dampening made the big difference.

I know of no way to address this problem on the front suspension ...

I really wish BMW would offer truly premium suspension on the RS There are a couple of companies that could do this.


Yes the stock suspension is very good, but is could be better. If you ride secondary roads with "sharp" bumps, cracks, pot holes, the RS does not do as good a job a better suspension can address.

Have a look at these guys
https://tractivesuspension.com/motorbikes/bmw-esa-products/

They rebuild ESA for personal preference

I looked a these guys a couple of years ago, had a discussion with Ted Porter also. Nothing then really available other then getting Ohlins forks and other non ESA adjustable rear at that time.

Just used your link to re look at the Tractive site. The rear Tractive ESA shock "may" offer the function/tuning I would want. The front is just "another" insert.not at all clear if it offers any rebound damping...just a different valve set.....better maybe, maybe not. I would have to call them to learn more and the site does not answer the questions I have...or I least I could not find them.

ps I used the Ricor Intimidator insert, not the Emulator, I said in previous post on my F650GS twin. They had a flexing shim set for valving that could just both compression and rebound dampening. Ricor is seems is out of business.

I spoke with the UK agent and was encouraged by their ability to personalise the set up. It's in my to do list now i've decided to keep my RS.
What was clear was that the components in the BMW system are all known to them and so they have a lot iof company knowhow in fixing/adapting.

Wessie, thanks I'll try that out, hopefully this weekend. Andy I'll take a look at them, if you decide to go that route let me know how it works out. The only draw back for me would be sending the suspension to the UK.

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I looked a these guys a couple of years ago, had a discussion with Ted Porter also. Nothing then really available other then getting Ohlins forks and other non ESA adjustable rear at that time.

Just used your link to re look at the Tractive site. The rear Tractive ESA shock "may" offer the function/tuning I would want. The front is just "another" insert.not at all clear if it offers any rebound damping...just a different valve set.....better maybe, maybe not. I would have to call them to learn more and the site does not answer the questions I have...or I least I could not find them.

ps I used the Ricor Intimidator insert, not the Emulator, I said in previous post on my F650GS twin. They had a flexing shim set for valving that could just both compression and rebound dampening. Ricor is seems is out of business.

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Zitat von Chris216 im Beitrag #12

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Wessie, thanks I'll try that out, hopefully this weekend. Andy I'll take a look at them, if you decide to go that route let me know how it works out. The only draw back for me would be sending the suspension to the UK.

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Thanks Andy, I'll check it out