RE: Handlebar risers - 2

Another +1 for the HeliBars. Installed them last week; easy install, and loving the more upright position!

From their website:

"Install beneath your stock bars and raise them 1 1/4" (32mm)** and move them towards the rider 1" (25mm)**"

I had helibars for a year which improved comfort and then went for the wunderlich Handlebars, which are way better IMO.

Zitat von RoastBeef im Beitrag #17

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I had helibars for a year which improved comfort and then went for the wunderlich Handlebars, which are way better IMO.

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Helibars link

https://www.helibars.com/products/HeliBa...0RS-LC/632.html

and installation instructions from website

Newbie here. Can you elaborate on the clutch hose rerouting? I'm at the extreme raising bars up 2 inches and back 1 inch. Clutch hose is a little tight at full turn right. Thanks!!

I had a similar question for all the helibar users. In their installation instructions they say:

Two adjustments need to be performed to assure the clutch hydraulic line has adequate slack when bars are rotated to the right steering stop.a. Using a T40 Torx bit, loosen the screw that attaches the metal stay holding the clutch hydraulic line left control housing wire loom in place. Rotate the stay counter clockwise until there is between a 1/4” to a 3/8” gap between the stay and the top triple clamp. (See Photo #11)b. Adjust the clutch lever down a little by loosening the clamp bolts, adjust to desired angle and re-tighten clamp. The new taller and closer control position places the clutch angle unnaturally high and a downward adjustment is more comfortable and produces more slack for the hydraulic line. (See Photo #12)

I was wondering if you found that necessary and whether it changed the way your hand works with the clutch significantly?

Hi everyone, I don't own one yet but I'm thinking of buying a R1200RS. But only if I can get a better handlebar position for me than the stock position.

A few people on this thread have the MV risers.

The description of the MV risers says a 30mm rise and a huge 80mm back. This is the sort of change I'd be looking for.

But is this correct? Does the MV adapter really move the bars 80mm back? It looks like less than 80mm in the website.

I know there are other brands of adapters which bring the bars about 25mm up/25mm back; that would not be enough for me.

I believe the MV set-backs only move the bars back 35mm and up 20mm. MV does this with a combination of moving the bars rearward and rotating them a bit. The HeliBars are similar, but lack the rotation. I prefer the MV product.

https://www.mv-motorrad.de/en/MV+Handelb...+R1250RS+LC.htm

Zitat von Biscuits im Beitrag #22

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Hi everyone, I don't own one yet but I'm thinking of buying a R1200RS. But only if I can get a better handlebar position for me than the stock position.

A few people on this thread have the MV risers.

The description of the MV risers says a 30mm rise and a huge 80mm back. This is the sort of change I'd be looking for.

But is this correct? Does the MV adapter really move the bars 80mm back? It looks like less than 80mm in the website.

I know there are other brands of adapters which bring the bars about 25mm up/25mm back; that would not be enough for me.

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Zitat von Blackshirt im Beitrag #23

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I believe the MV set-backs only move the bars back 35mm and up 20mm. MV does this with a combination of moving the bars rearward and rotating them a bit. The HeliBars are similar, but lack the rotation. I prefer the MV product. .....

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I had the MV risers fitted for all of last year but have now taken them off. They are about an inch up and an inch back (not 80mm).
Too early to be sure, as I've not yet been out to test my eyesight properly, but I suspect I will like the bike more without them. I like the more sporty riding position.
Also I have recently fitted grip puppies.

OK more info on the 80mm rearward bar position I'm looking for.
I've been using the cycle-ergo website linked above already for a long time and have found it great for telling me what bikes will work and what won't.

I test rode a 1200RS about 2 years ago and knew by the time I got to the end of the dealer's driveway, that I loved the bike but could never buy one, due to the riding position. I cannot get along with bikes which have a bar position give my upper body more than about 13 degrees of forward lean. Without modification, for my body size (5'9", 30" inseam), the 1200RS has 20 degrees of forward lean. I got excited with I saw 80mm on a UK retailers site as it could put a R1200RS back on my buying list. But it seems that is an incorrect figure and the MV riser is actually 35mm rearward+25mm up. I have plugged this into cycle-ergo and it gives me 15 degrees forward lean - still not upright enough.

I've looked at the newer R1250RS and that seems to be a more upright riding position out of the box? Anyone know? This would depend on the seat height and I've noticed the seat height on cycle-ergo isn't always accurate. If the 1250RS really is more upright, then the MV riser with 35mm rear+25mm up could be ok and give me a 13 degree forward lean.

On the RT suggestion: I want a smaller bike, so that is a no-go even if it does have the right riding position.

You also have the R1250R that has proper handlebars and is more upright. You can also fit those same bars to the RS model, at some cost.
Wunderlich also do a proper bar conversion kit but that is also pricey.

Biscuits,

You also need to factor in seat height. Plainly the lower the seat the higher the bar rise relative to your body.

Given you stated height there are three realistic options

740 mm
720 mm
695 mm (though this is likely too low for you. it is the standard seat on the RR)

I have both the 740 and 720 seat. At 5ft 8" and with an effective inseam of 30" (in my Daytona M-Star boots) the 740 which arrived with the bike was a stretch at zero speeds but leg comfort was good. The 720 effectively gives me another 20mm of bar rise and makes me more sure footed when stationary (How come there always seem to be a pot-hole when you want to put your foot down in a hurry?!!). I rode about 3k last year with the 740mm but have the 720 mm on at the moment. I feel less of a wally when parking up on dodgy surfaces with the lower saddle. So I have just lowered the footpegs fitting SW-Motech replacements. They only drop the pedals a max of 15 mm but they are reasonably priced and you don't have the problem of requiring major mods to the rear brake lever or the pedals being off-set outboard big time as seems to happen with other alternatives that offer a bigger drop.

I plan a major run out next Monday on our first day of FREEDOM which will thoroughly test my new set up.

Chris