RE: Keyless ride: using the 'emergency' key - 2

This thread prompted me to test the emergency key that I keep in my wallet before I actually need to use it (hopefully never). Lee's post was particularly helpful. I can attest to the observation that the key works when inserted as per the first photo and doesn't work when inserted as in the second photo. And this is also what is shown in the Rider's Manual.


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Zitat von Ducedi im Beitrag #16

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the key works when inserted as per the first photo and doesn't work when inserted as in the second photo.

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Zitat von Freddyfruitbat im Beitrag #14

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[quote=Freddyfruitbat|p11861]The tech duly found the problem... my bike has an auxiliary fusebox (Fuzeblock) fitted below the seat, immediately behind the immobiliser antenna, and by demounting components and moving them around, he demonstrated that it was interference from the fusebox or its cabling that was causing the key not to work. He then put it all back together, leaving it to me to work out how to solve that problem, as it was no longer a warranty issue - fortunately for me they agreed not to bill me for the time they took, as it was evidently chargeable.

Would be interested to hear whether anybody else has got anything electronic and aftermarket wired in near the antenna, and if so whether it affects their emergency key?

I need to do some playing around now, obviously - might start by tin foil-sheathing the cables which pass directly by the antenna. An alternative approach might be just to leave it as it is, so that in the extremely unlikely event that I actually have to use that emergency key for real, I'll need to remember to physically demount and temporarily move the antenna or fusebox first in order to start the engine. Would also serve as an additional anti-theft precaution and would make me less worried about stashing the key somewhere on the bike!

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Zitat von AZGeek im Beitrag #18

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Can you post a pic of where you had the Fluzeblock originally positioned?

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Zitat von Freddyfruitbat im Beitrag #19

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Zitat von AZGeek im Beitrag #18

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Can you post a pic of where you had the Fluzeblock originally positioned?

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Here you go. I haven't had a chance to play around with it yet, but I think the first thing to try will be to slide a piece of mesh underneath the antenna to shiled it from any RF interference from the the main input cable to the Fuzebox which runs directly beneath it. Can't easily move the cable as it's too short.

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no issues with my plastic key starting the bike however I would like to know how to open the fuel cap in case I lose the original fob, does the plastic key have this capability?

As long as you start the bike, you can open fuel cap.

Zitat von Qmoto im Beitrag #22

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As long as you start the bike, you can open fuel cap.

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Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #24

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Zitat von daggy im Beitrag #23

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Zitat von Qmoto im Beitrag #22

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As long as you start the bike, you can open fuel cap.

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Oh okay. When the bike is started using the fob it won't allow the fuel cap to open so guessed it would be the same case with the plastic key

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I think what is meant is that if you activate the bike with the plastic key, then switch the bike off, you will get the same period of time to unlock the fuel cap as you do with the keyless fob

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Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #26

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Zitat von Richard230 im Beitrag #25

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Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #24

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Zitat von daggy im Beitrag #23

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Zitat von Qmoto im Beitrag #22

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As long as you start the bike, you can open fuel cap.

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Oh okay. When the bike is started using the fob it won't allow the fuel cap to open so guessed it would be the same case with the plastic key

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I think what is meant is that if you activate the bike with the plastic key, then switch the bike off, you will get the same period of time to unlock the fuel cap as you do with the keyless fob

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90 seconds. So make it fast.....

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I know you are old but surely it does not take you that long to remember why you stopped and get off the bike?

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Zitat von Richard230 im Beitrag #25

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90 seconds. So make it fast.....

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Zitat von Freddyfruitbat im Beitrag #20

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Zitat von Freddyfruitbat im Beitrag #19

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Zitat von AZGeek im Beitrag #18

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Can you post a pic of where you had the Fluzeblock originally positioned?

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Here you go. I haven't had a chance to play around with it yet, but I think the first thing to try will be to slide a piece of mesh underneath the antenna to shiled it from any RF interference from the the main input cable to the Fuzebox which runs directly beneath it. Can't easily move the cable as it's too short.

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Update:
I've been in touch with the Fuzebox people, who said the cause was far more likely to be an accessory attached to said Fuzebox. I did a bit of experimenting, and it turns out they are absolutely right, and that the culprit is in fact my DRLs.
Now I know what the problem is, it's actually not a problem at all - in the unlikely event that I ever actually need to use the emergency key, I would simply have to pull the main fuse on the Fuzebox, near the battery and off I go (the Fuzebox doesn't power anything critical). And in fact, as far as I'm concerned, this is a neat extra anti-theft feature, which means I can now quite happily conceal the emergency key somewhere on the bike in the full knowledge that even if someone found it and knew what to do with it, it's pretty unlikely that they'd realise that they'd need to pull a fuse before it would get the bike started!

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Zitat von Qmoto im Beitrag #22

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As long as you start the bike, you can open fuel cap.

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