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#31 | RE: Best oil for R1200RS?? datum

Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:49 pm

Zitat von zer0netgain im Beitrag #30
Amsoil has compatible oils. At next change, I'm going to Amsoil. It's under European oils, not Metric oils.

https://www.amsoil.com/p/european-car-fo...-motor-oil-afl/

https://www.amsoil.com/p/european-car-fo...-motor-oil-efm/

neither of these has the JASO MA2 specification needed for motorcycles with wet clutches

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#32 | RE: Best oil for R1200RS?? datum

Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:09 pm

Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #31
Zitat von zer0netgain im Beitrag #30
Amsoil has compatible oils. At next change, I'm going to Amsoil. It's under European oils, not Metric oils.

https://www.amsoil.com/p/european-car-fo...-motor-oil-afl/

https://www.amsoil.com/p/european-car-fo...-motor-oil-efm/

neither of these has the JASO MA2 specification needed for motorcycles with wet clutches

Tread lightly, Amsoil is a bit of a direct marketing cult.

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#33 | RE: Best oil for R1200RS?? datum

Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:35 pm (Last edited: Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:35 pm)

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I bought 10 litres (2 x oil change + top ups) BMW Advantec Ultimate off ebay from oelshop4you. Works out at a tenner per litre inc postage (against £16 + from the dealer)

Werbung: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/112610913772

A filter & washers from Motorworks and youre good to go

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#34 | RE: Best oil for R1200RS?? datum

Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:42 pm

Not another oil thread !! but anyway............
OIL is cheaper than metal, at any cost, to replace inside these machines no matter whatever we ride.
Spending £15 to £20,000 on a machine and then saving £15-20 on oil seems not worth effort or risk to me.
Just by doing a home service you have already saved 1hr labour at xxx (x2 whatever we thought reasonable) and unless distance to collect, local agents for bmw are not stocking oil (unlikley) I see no advantages.
OK I have just bought 15w50 castrol 4 litre off ebay (£18 seemed mis- priced so I got two) for my R1200st as it was castrol recommended by bmw from new I have stuck to that.
Until the RS oil is confirmed as available under another brand by bmw I am sticking to buying it from my local dealers.
I think opinion is the tie up is now bmw-shell rather than bmw-castrol but I will not be changing to another premium brand to save a few quid.
As it seems I may already waste plenty on my hobbies (with my wife's support/tolerance) this is another expenditure I accept.

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#35 | RE: Best oil for R1200RS?? datum

Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:52 pm

Zitat von Dave H im Beitrag #34
Not another oil thread !! but anyway............
OIL is cheaper than metal, at any cost, to replace inside these machines no matter whatever we ride.
Spending £15 to £20,000 on a machine and then saving £15-20 on oil seems not worth effort or risk to me.
Just by doing a home service you have already saved 1hr labour at xxx (x2 whatever we thought reasonable) and unless distance to collect, local agents for bmw are not stocking oil (unlikley) I see no advantages.
OK I have just bought 15w50 castrol 4 litre off ebay (£18 seemed mis- priced so I got two) for my R1200st as it was castrol recommended by bmw from new I have stuck to that.
Until the RS oil is confirmed as available under another brand by bmw I am sticking to buying it from my local dealers.
I think opinion is the tie up is now bmw-shell rather than bmw-castrol but I will not be changing to another premium brand to save a few quid.
As it seems I may already waste plenty on my hobbies (with my wife's support/tolerance) this is another expenditure I accept.

This is the only oil thread in town. It will consume any upstarts.

https://www.shell.com/business-customers...l-supplier.html - not opinion, it's a contract in place until 2022

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#36 | RE: Best oil for R1200RS?? datum

Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:56 pm

Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #31
neither of these has the JASO MA2 specification needed for motorcycles with wet clutches

Good catch. I'm inquiring about that. They have 10W40 but not 5W40 in the metric motorcycle section. While in warranty, I was inclined to ensure only 5W40 went into the motor.

Zitat von Mr. 36654 im Beitrag #32
Tread lightly, Amsoil is a bit of a direct marketing cult.

Too late. I became a devotee back in 2019 when I first got back into motorcycling.

I wanted the best rated oil available, and Amsoil was it. What sells it for me is how it cleans when hot. I did some work on my XX and the inner workings of the bike (after tens of thousands of miles) was gum and varnish free. I also like it because it doesn't start to gel until -70 F...which I will not be riding in, but my pickup truck got through several Wyoming winters with no need for a block heater.

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#37 | RE: Best oil for R1200RS?? datum

Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:18 pm

Couldn't pass up this Amazon deal for my current 24K service, Also got the correct Mahle oil filter for $12
https://www.amazon.com/Castrol-Power1-Sy...91179388&sr=8-5

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#38 | RE: Best oil for R1200RS?? datum

Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:35 pm

Zitat von zer0netgain im Beitrag #36
Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #31
neither of these has the JASO MA2 specification needed for motorcycles with wet clutches

Good catch. I'm inquiring about that. They have 10W40 but not 5W40 in the metric motorcycle section. While in warranty, I was inclined to ensure only 5W40 went into the motor.

Amsoil confirmed it IS NOT wet clutch compatable. I guess I'll stick with the Castrol I get from Amazon...or try the 10W40 that is compatable.

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#39 | RE: Best oil for R1200RS?? datum

Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:43 pm

On occasion, BMWMOA offers a 25% off coupon on Castrol #1 from Amazon

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#40 | RE: Best oil for R1200RS?? datum

Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:18 pm (Last edited: Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:19 pm)

Zitat von Mr. 36654 im Beitrag #39
On occasion, BMWMOA offers a 25% off coupon on Castrol #1 from Amazon

If I could afford the BMWMOA membership, I'd not need the 25% off coupon.

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#41 | RE: Best oil for R1200RS?? datum

Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:12 pm

Can I point members toward a UK oil supplier called OPIE oils.

https://www.opieoils.co.uk/

They�re based in the SW and send oil out via parcel.
They�re prices are sensible and they can get hold of nearly anything.I use MILLERS oil in my diesel cars and all have gone onto intergalactic mileages. OPIE are the only reliable source of this product for me and have been very helpful in the past.
Pity Millers don�t do an oil suitable for my RS.
When I spoke to them about the RS they steered me towards the MOTUL or SILKOLENE products.

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#42 | RE: Best oil for R1200RS?? datum

Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:53 pm

Zitat von Rutland Rider im Beitrag #41
Can I point members toward a UK oil supplier called OPIE oils.

https://www.opieoils.co.uk/

They�re based in the SW and send oil out via parcel.
They�re prices are sensible and they can get hold of nearly anything.I use MILLERS oil in my diesel cars and all have gone onto intergalactic mileages. OPIE are the only reliable source of this product for me and have been very helpful in the past.
Pity Millers don�t do an oil suitable for my RS.
When I spoke to them about the RS they steered me towards the MOTUL or SILKOLENE products.

Opie are well known on the GS forum and you can adopt their 10% discount by using the code UKGSER
https://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread...ie+oil+discount

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#43 | RE: Best oil for R1200RS?? datum

Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:11 am

Huh. My KTM' s look like that too whenever the dealership is allowed to change my oil. The Germans must be major shareholders in Shell oil...😁

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#44 | RE: Best oil for R1200RS?? datum

Thu Oct 01, 2020 8:53 pm

Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #42
Zitat von Rutland Rider im Beitrag #41
Can I point members toward a UK oil supplier called OPIE oils.

https://www.opieoils.co.uk/

They�re based in the SW and send oil out via parcel.
They�re prices are sensible and they can get hold of nearly anything.I use MILLERS oil in my diesel cars and all have gone onto intergalactic mileages. OPIE are the only reliable source of this product for me and have been very helpful in the past.
Pity Millers don�t do an oil suitable for my RS.
When I spoke to them about the RS they steered me towards the MOTUL or SILKOLENE products.

Opie are well known on the GS forum and you can adopt their 10% discount by using the code UKGSER
https://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread...ie+oil+discount

Thanks for the reminder.

Opie delivered my oil and filter today ready for next change. Perhaps this month. Perhaps next spring.

Going to try Motul instead of Castrol this time. Just to see if there�s any difference. I think I read someone found Motul improved gear changes.

Carpe Diem!

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#45 | RE: Best oil for R1200RS?? datum

Sat Oct 10, 2020 12:49 am

I decided to give mine an early oil change.

End of year treat after only 2,500 miles this year.

Trying Motul 7100 for the first time. Have deliberately �under filled� the sump to see if I can feel any difference when I test ride it next week (I hope).

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