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Wed Oct 18, 2023 1:14 am
Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #30Zitat von L2RKE im Beitrag #29 That's telling it like it is, Mr W. Except for maybe the lupin blue part. My parents paid less for a home in Boulder, Colorado in the early 1960's than these bikes cost. And it was on a hill in a "good" neighborhood, and my father was a banker. I know...inflation...but I can't help but compare the two things. |
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I have watched a number of reviews of the new GS 1300 now and I have to say it seems like a major step forward. If the same benefits are transferred to a R1300RS, I shall be very tempted. |
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This is a very good comparison of the 1300 to the 1250. It almost seems like the RS is redundant.
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I take your point, but if the same level of design upgrade ( frame and suspension in particular) was applied to the RS in combination with the 1300 engine and repositioned gearbox, imagine what a step-change that could bring to the RS. The question is whether the sales units for the RS justify the required development work, I hope so. |
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Zitat von Boxerboy im Beitrag #35 A slightly educated guess is that a lot of the development for the GS carries to the RS/R so they're relatively cheap to produce. The drive train is obviously exactly the same, so they get to amortize that across more models. The frame does change from the GS to the RS, but it's a relatively small change compared to the development they had to do for the GS. In other words, hopefully it's easier to justify the RS/R from a business standpoint. The GS videos have stated that the headlight change was a result of new regulation. It now has to be centered. So this tells me the RS render that was out a month or so ago is bogus and the new RS will also have a single, centered headlight, though I could be wrong. I do think a centered headlight on a bike like the RS could look very good.
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Zitat von Boxerboy im Beitrag #35 rs owners.jpg - Bild entfernt (keine Rechte) RS owners waiting for model updates Alan |
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Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #38 seems BMW had no choice with the headlight. Your letter of complaint should go to the EU regulator. Twin headlights viewed in the dark at distance have been contentious for a while. There is a body of thought that the bike can look like a car very far away leading to another vehicle pulling out of a side road as they misjudge the bike position, resulting in a collision.
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Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #39Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #38 Yes, I've heard that argument about bikes with 2 headlights. I never ride at night anyway, but I am curious how a single headlight would "fix" this perception issue. |
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Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #40Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #39Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #38 maybe the viewer would spend longer looking at the point of light to judge the speed of approach, rather than a quick glance thinking the 2 light bike was a car half a mile away
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Zitat von Paul911 im Beitrag #34 Thank you, that was a good informative review.
Lee
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Zitat von Lee im Beitrag #42Zitat von Paul911 im Beitrag #34 Just watched it. The first review of the R1300 I have viewed/read. I have deliberately avoided the discussions on UKGSer as they are often a load of tosh. I have just viewed the section on the adjustable damping within the presets. Nice to see BMW has finally caught up with the WP suspension fitted to my Triumph 1200 Explorer in 2017.
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Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #43 Have actually been having a look at what they are saying on UKGSer for entertainment value... Informative video. Good explanation of the DSA as some have been saying it is too firm in normal road conditions. Had a look at one this morning in the flesh, and it looks good, well finished, like the paintwork on the cylinder heads and swing arm, and the 'sheet metal' frame looks good, especially painted white on the trophy. The 'sheet metal' description undersells it for me, as when I hear sheet metal I think of a metal basher in the Black Country. |
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Zitat von Lee im Beitrag #42Zitat von Paul911 im Beitrag #34 His channel also has some good technical info on the 1250GS that's applicable to our bikes.
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