R1200RS + R1250RS Forum
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Tue Aug 15, 2023 10:26 pm
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In the UK they (BMW) won’t fit the non GT 6! Not type approved or something. I had the 5 (non GT) on before and personally I think I prefer the softer sidewalls. They give a bit more feedback to my mind. I ride solo 99% of the time, weigh 76kg and don’t carry much luggage, so I don’t think I really need the GT version. |
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I'm going for a set of Bridgestone T32 before I go to Spain. Sadly the stalwart Avon Storm 3D XM are being phased out as the UK factory will close soon. Maybe Avon bike tyres will disappear forever as the parent company Goodyear includes Dunlop in Europe, with a factory in France. I have used T31 on my S1000XR, so T32 is a safe bet.
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Zitat von Oscarguitar im Beitrag #2 have you asked an independent tyre fitter on which to fit? Michelin says plain R5 or R6 so I suspect the BMW dealer is dissembling as they only stock the GT variant as that is the tyre for the hundreds of RTs they see in comparison to the RS RS: https://www.michelin.co.uk/motorbike/bro...---C-(73W)-R-TL RT https://www.michelin.co.uk/motorbike/bro...---C-(73W)-R-TL
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I had a set of Road 6 GT tires on my 2018 F800GT, which is a lighter bike than the RS, and I liked them. I, however, sold the bike before I could assay how long they'd last. I've had Metzeler M7RR and M9RR tires on my S1000RR and liked them a lot, too. |
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If you read this, Michelin used the non GT on the K1300S. That weighs about the same as the R1250RS.
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Zitat von Paul911 im Beitrag #6 OK...good info. Now...has anyone mounted the Road 6 on your RS, and if so...what kind of mileage did you experience and how was the ride? |
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Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #7Zitat von Paul911 im Beitrag #6 I have Road 6s (non GT) and they replaced Road 4s. I got about 8000 miles out of the 4s. I'm at 12k now and the 6s are wearing very well.
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I wouldn't say Michelin are better quality than Metzeler just less familiar outside its homeland. It's a division of Pirelli.
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Zitat von Paul911 im Beitrag #8Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #7Zitat von Paul911 im Beitrag #6 That's incredible. After years of riding the RR, I'm used to only getting 4500 miles out of a set of tires. On the RS, the Roadtec 01's are at 3500 miles and look like they have a LOT more miles left on them...very little noticeable wear. I'm curious how the Michelin's ride, and corner, compared to the Roadtec Metzelers. |
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Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #10Zitat von Paul911 im Beitrag #8Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #7Zitat von Paul911 im Beitrag #6 I used Bridgestone S21 on my S1000XR, which lasted under 4000 miles. They are sold as Hypersport tyres whereas the T31/T32 are sport touring tyres. These T31 were OE on the XR and would last 7000 miles on the XR. I guess you were using a sportier, softer rubber on the RR?
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Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #11Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #10Zitat von Paul911 im Beitrag #8Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #7Zitat von Paul911 im Beitrag #6 The first RR came with Pirelli Supercorsa tires...very sticky, and very short-lived. For all my other RR's, I went with Metzeler M7RR and then M9RR, and found them very good in the twisty canyons and relatively long-lived (4500 miles or so). The idea of getting the mileage you guys are quoting is nirvana, if the tires I use on the RS come close to those mileage numbers. |
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Zitat von Oscarguitar im Beitrag #2 I can tell you that my 2023 RS came from the factory with Road 5 GTs installed. My experience with GT or non-GT Michelins is that on a heavier bike the GTs will give significantly longer life. Albeit that experience is from riding a FJR. In terms of handling, I couldn't discern much difference except I did feel a bit better about laying the GT tires over on the sides. Again, not necessarily relevant to the RS. |
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Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #10Zitat von Paul911 im Beitrag #8Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #7Zitat von Paul911 im Beitrag #6 I've tried out Dunlop Sportmaxx, Conti Road Attack 3s, Michelin Road 5 and now Z01. RS is only about 20kg heavier on its own from my previous bike and I do 50% of my mileage two-up so the weight is up there. Michelins (R5) are by a wide margin best tyre I had, feedback, feel, dry and most importantly wet/cold grip. I've sold by 650R to a friend when Road 5s had around 12k (kilometers) on them and more than 50% left to TWI. She did another 5-6k and tyres are nowhere near done. Another friend had the new Road 6 fitted to his 650F this winter, in the 10k since he's extremely happy with them and has no complaints or signs of wear. The Z08 on the bike are 'ok' but nothing special, slightly better grip in the wet compared to Conti RA3 but RA3 was superior in dry. Roadattacks 3s scrubbed down to TWI in about 12k with some drop-off in grip performance for last 2k. Dunlops were a plastic mess that showed no wear in 10k and felt about as trustworthy as Germany in 1939 soured the entire brand for me. OEM Z08's on the bike will likely be down to TWI by the time I reach 11-12k with the front being worse for wear than the rear with about 1,5-2mm to TWI. I'll be looking at Road 5 or Road 6 depending on the better deal. IMHO Road 5 already was an amazing tyre and I doubt the PR stuff where they could make it X% better with Road 6. So if there's a better deal to be had on the R5 will take them with no reservations. Anecdotal evidence: around the time I was due for a change on my RA3s I met a fellow on a GS1250 on a ferry. Had R5's just about ready to be replaced. He said he drives mostly two up and drives it 'balls to the wall' when solo [he scraped his alu-box panniers cornering] and the tires lasted him 15.000km. I mounted my R5's a month later :) edit: the bike a 2023 RS on OEM Z01's not Z08 I always mix up the two Year-round riding enthusiast i.e. seasonal motorcycle popsicle. |
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