RE: Road 6 or Road 6 GT? - 4

Me too, R5 no issues, R6 GT, No issues, no veering. Again I’m just an another stranger on the Internet who happens to have the same bike and has used Michelins on the last 2 RSs as well. Have also had a number of loaner RS with Metzlers. Never got on with them, I find them uncommunicative in comparison.

Zitat von Bravo im Beitrag #45

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Never experienced this veering,running Road 6s on my RS and my viffer but why take any notice of a stranger on the Internet?

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Well, good. Thanks for that input, stranger! LOL! Just kidding.

So tell me what you like about the R6 (and why the GT...perhaps it doesn't have the issue the regular R6 does?) and what you mean by "uncommunicative". Thank you!

I've always been under the impression the GT was for those really heavy tourers like the Gold Wing, etc.

I just like the feeling of security they give me whilst riding,they seem to stick to the road,excellent in the wet.
Mine are standard 6s as I don't feel the need for GTs

I'm on my 3rd set of 5's on my 2021 RS. the bike does vear to the left when hands free, i always thought my side bag loads weren't balanced. I just shift butt to the right a bit and carry on. The tires are so good this does not bother me at all.

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I'm on my 3rd set of 5's on my 2021 RS. the bike does vear to the left when hands free, i always thought my side bag loads weren't balanced. I just shift butt to the right a bit and carry on. The tires are so good this does not bother me at all.

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Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #51

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Zitat von codydawg im Beitrag #50

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I'm on my 3rd set of 5's on my 2021 RS. the bike does vear to the left when hands free, i always thought my side bag loads weren't balanced. I just shift butt to the right a bit and carry on. The tires are so good this does not bother me at all.

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Got it...thanks. I'm sensitive to the veering issue because there was a severe issue of veering with certain S1000RR bikes. I had one, and the issue was quite aggravating. BMW ignored it, but eventually fixed it on new models with an engine position shift. I found that replacing the stock muffler (heavy) with a lightweight Akra GP muffler also corrected the problem. But when I hear "veer", I'm all about staying away.

But if you guys are finding the Road 6 to be good, I may change my tune...thanks.

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Zitat von Bravo im Beitrag #52

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Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #51

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Zitat von codydawg im Beitrag #50

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I'm on my 3rd set of 5's on my 2021 RS. the bike does vear to the left when hands free, i always thought my side bag loads weren't balanced. I just shift butt to the right a bit and carry on. The tires are so good this does not bother me at all.

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Got it...thanks. I'm sensitive to the veering issue because there was a severe issue of veering with certain S1000RR bikes. I had one, and the issue was quite aggravating. BMW ignored it, but eventually fixed it on new models with an engine position shift. I found that replacing the stock muffler (heavy) with a lightweight Akra GP muffler also corrected the problem. But when I hear "veer", I'm all about staying away.

But if you guys are finding the Road 6 to be good, I may change my tune...thanks.

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Just don't blame us if you don't like them

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If I’d had the choice I would not have had the GT version. The BMW dealer (Bahnstormer Alton) would not fit the non GT version as BMW recommended (at that time) the GT. For my weight, don’t really tour, take much luggage or a pillion that often I didn’t think I needed the GT either. To me the GT feels stiffer (and I too would be firmly in the ‘oblivious’ camp) than the R6 but still far more communicative than any Metzler I’ve ridden.

GT sucks on the RS as its a light machine compared to the other units . BMW bought a ton of Road 6 GTs for the bikes they are also have 1/32 less tread brand new vs a Road 6 GT you can buy at Cycle gear . the ways OEM save money . Last Time I spoke to Michelin about their road series tires the GT was specked for bikes over 650 pounds wet . The RS is 536 , and mine with weight reduction is 517 wet GT has a very stiff side wall with little flex .

Zitat von c10 im Beitrag #55

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GT sucks on the RS as its a light machine compared to the other units . BMW bought a ton of Road 6 GTs for the bikes they are also have 1/32 less tread brand new vs a Road 6 GT you can buy at Cycle gear . the ways OEM save money . Last Time I spoke to Michelin about their road series tires the GT was specked for bikes over 650 pounds wet . The RS is 536 , and mine with weight reduction is 517 wet GT has a very stiff side wall with little flex .

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I think this video explains what c10 is refering to...

https://youtu.be/Tv97i_-V7hA?si=o-92wp0CYXr23xkE

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If I’d had the choice I would not have had the GT version. The BMW dealer (Bahnstormer Alton) would not fit the non GT version as BMW recommended (at that time) the GT. For my weight, don’t really tour, take much luggage or a pillion that often I didn’t think I needed the GT either. To me the GT feels stiffer (and I too would be firmly in the ‘oblivious’ camp) than the R6 but still far more communicative than any Metzler I’ve ridden.
c10
GT sucks on the RS as its a light machine compared to the other units . BMW bought a ton of Road 6 GTs for the bikes they are also have 1/32 less tread brand new vs a Road 6 GT you can buy at Cycle gear . the ways OEM save money . Last Time I spoke to Michelin about their road series tires the GT was specked for bikes over 650 pounds wet . The RS is 536 , and mine with weight reduction is 517 wet GT has a very stiff side wall with little flex .

thinking about the two above it does raise the possibility they had a contract with Michelin for OEM fitted tires that also included a whole bunch of R6GTs in the package - tires meant ostensibly for machines such as the K-bikes, R18s, and RTs. (GS could fit the bill but I've only ever seen them come on OEM 80/20 tires for all the hardcore urban off-road dentists) While K/R18/RT sell much less than the usual GS/R/RS/XR offerings so they have a stock of R6GTs they need to ship or get rid off so they stick them on wherever it could pass such as R's and RS'.

Some quick math makes my old CBR650R wet with me, pillion, and some belongings come out at ~800 lbs and I've done 8000 wonderful miles on Road 5's before selling them with the bike (friend bought the bike off me and she has made another 9000 miles on the same set and is due for replacement soon) , I've only done a couple of hundred miles so far on the R6 on the RS with pillion and panniers and I consider them excellent in grip, predictability, and responsiveness no need for a stiffer tire.

The 180/55/17 fits many BMW's the RT needs a GT tire if you max it out or ride two up . @ 615 pounds wet . Add a 200 lb rider and 50 lb gear in the cases . 965 lb.
Now get this my bike is a new 2023 RS built in 6/2023 and just noticed its actually Road 5 GT's rated at 805 lb max load rear tire ( 180/55/17 )
A 2002 ZZR1200 on my lift I'm restoring for a customer has 180/55/17 Road 4 tires non -GT and the rear is also max load of 805 lb