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#31 | RE: What other motorized vehicles do you own? datum

Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:16 pm

Zitat von Lee im Beitrag #30
Zitat von MrVvrroomm im Beitrag #29

Any EV in USA that's not a Tesla sucks for charging away from home.

Is that because they're hard to find, don't charge fast or both?

if the UK is anything to go by, add to the list:
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#32 | RE: What other motorized vehicles do you own? datum

Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:18 pm

Zitat von MrVvrroomm im Beitrag #29
Zitat von Mr. 36654 im Beitrag #28
Zitat von MrVvrroomm im Beitrag #27

'21 Tesla Model Y Performance.

Will never own another ICE car/truck ever again.

Have you ever charged away from home? If so, was it at anything other than a Tesla fast charger?

We've charged away from home using only Tesla superchargers.

Any EV in USA that's not a Tesla sucks for charging away from home.

At 220V and 32Amps (non-tesla charging)............that's 7 kW-hr if you have an hour to wait. Something to do at home or at the hotel, overnight

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#33 | RE: What other motorized vehicles do you own? datum

Tue Dec 28, 2021 12:46 am

Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #31
Zitat von Lee im Beitrag #30
Zitat von MrVvrroomm im Beitrag #29

Any EV in USA that's not a Tesla sucks for charging away from home.

Is that because they're hard to find, don't charge fast or both?

if the UK is anything to go by, add to the list:
broken
not compatible with the cable supplied with the car

Car & Driver did a story where they drove a bunch of EVs on a 1000 mile road trip. They said Tesla's charging network was great. Everyone else's was a mess.

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#34 | RE: What other motorized vehicles do you own? datum

Tue Dec 28, 2021 1:11 am

Zitat von Paul911 im Beitrag #33

Car & Driver did a story where they drove a bunch of EVs on a 1000 mile road trip. They said Tesla's charging network was great. Everyone else's was a mess.

What states did they travel through?
It would be interesting to see a article about driving from one coast to the other on two lane roads with a Tesla and another brand.

Lee
2022 R1250RS
Iowa, USA

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#35 | RE: What other motorized vehicles do you own? datum

Tue Dec 28, 2021 1:40 am

Zitat von Lee im Beitrag #34
Zitat von Paul911 im Beitrag #33

Car & Driver did a story where they drove a bunch of EVs on a 1000 mile road trip. They said Tesla's charging network was great. Everyone else's was a mess.

What states did they travel through?
It would be interesting to see a article about driving from one coast to the other on two lane roads with a Tesla and another brand.

Here's the article.

w w w.caranddriver.com/features/a36877585/ev-1000-11-electric-cars-long-distance-race/

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#36 | RE: What other motorized vehicles do you own? datum

Tue Dec 28, 2021 2:13 am

Zitat von Lee im Beitrag #30
Zitat von MrVvrroomm im Beitrag #29

Any EV in USA that's not a Tesla sucks for charging away from home.

Is that because they're hard to find, don't charge fast or both?

Yes, both. Tesla's EV charging network began in 2012.

I ride '19 R1250GSA, '19 Yamaha Xmax 300
my wife rides '20 R1250GS, '13 Piaggio BV350
Both proud former owners of a pair of 2016 R1200RS

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#37 | RE: What other motorized vehicles do you own? datum

Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:37 am

Level 2 charging (220V/32A) is basically 20~28 miles of range per hour of charge. In some places, it's offered free as an inducement to stop and shop. Assuming the charger is mounted on an existing service and doesn't need a standalone meter, the cost for that one hour of charge is 65~80 cents, depending on the utility costs.

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#38 | RE: What other motorized vehicles do you own? datum

Tue Dec 28, 2021 2:56 pm

Zitat von Mr. 36654 im Beitrag #37
Level 2 charging (220V/32A) is basically 20~28 miles of range per hour of charge. In some places, it's offered free as an inducement to stop and shop. Assuming the charger is mounted on an existing service and doesn't need a standalone meter, the cost for that one hour of charge is 65~80 cents, depending on the utility costs.

My opinion: Level 2 only makes sense at a hotel or a friend's place where you may be spending the night. Otherwise, just plug in when you get home. A
All public charging should be DC fast charging.

I ride '19 R1250GSA, '19 Yamaha Xmax 300
my wife rides '20 R1250GS, '13 Piaggio BV350
Both proud former owners of a pair of 2016 R1200RS

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#39 | RE: What other motorized vehicles do you own? datum

Tue Dec 28, 2021 4:46 pm (Last edited: Tue Dec 28, 2021 4:47 pm)

Zitat von Paul911 im Beitrag #35

Here's the article.

w w w.caranddriver.com/features/a36877585/ev-1000-11-electric-cars-long-distance-race/

[quote=caranddriver]Our drivers are split when asked whether the EV 1000 was harder or easier than expected, but most say that if they were to do the trip again, they would do one thing differently: drive a gas car. And that includes the Tesla drivers. We'll know that the charging networks and EV technology are fully baked when we're no longer saying that.[/quote]

Lee
2022 R1250RS
Iowa, USA

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#40 | RE: What other motorized vehicles do you own? datum

Tue Dec 28, 2021 5:13 pm

Zitat von MrVvrroomm im Beitrag #38
Zitat von Mr. 36654 im Beitrag #37
Level 2 charging (220V/32A) is basically 20~28 miles of range per hour of charge. In some places, it's offered free as an inducement to stop and shop. Assuming the charger is mounted on an existing service and doesn't need a standalone meter, the cost for that one hour of charge is 65~80 cents, depending on the utility costs.

My opinion: Level 2 only makes sense at a hotel or a friend's place where you may be spending the night. Otherwise, just plug in when you get home. A
All public charging should be DC fast charging.

I'm not going to argue with your comment on public charging, but considering the number of years since my last overnight trip in the car, I'm guessing most people with an EV would never need public charging.

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#41 | RE: What other motorized vehicles do you own? datum

Tue Dec 28, 2021 7:58 pm (Last edited: Tue Dec 28, 2021 8:01 pm)

I think EV vs ICE is the way to go for us....eventually!

My wife's car will be the first as she really only drives it locally or occasionally 150 miles round trip to visit a daughter. But for these same reasons it is a in expensive used car with over 90k miles...not a $45k plus EV.
When we can get a good used EV for < than $15k we can replace it.

Our other car is newer, a bit plusher as we use it for trips....several 350 plus miles in a day per year and many 200 mile days in winter. I am very skeptical in doing 200 miles a day in winter and ANY EV today.
Running in the cold with snow tires in snow will cut milage a lot! 20 35%??. Runining the heater, defroster, etc will cut the milage another 20-30%?? ( I believe most are simple resistance heaters though I have heard that Tesla uses a heat pump in it D model.)...If these assumption are close to being correct (I have seen no real winter milage test anywhere) the range will approx 120 mile with little margin for error.
I'm just not willing to pony up $45-80K for such a car yet.

If I were a city or even a suburban person the calculus might be different.

So a plug in hybrid SUV is most likely our next new car.

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#42 | RE: What other motorized vehicles do you own? datum

Tue Dec 28, 2021 9:38 pm

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#43 | RE: What other motorized vehicles do you own? datum

Tue Dec 28, 2021 10:11 pm

Zitat von Mark im Beitrag #42
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Did you start with a black Special Edition?

Lee
2022 R1250RS
Iowa, USA

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#44 | RE: What other motorized vehicles do you own? datum

Tue Dec 28, 2021 11:04 pm

Zitat von Vtbob im Beitrag #41
I think EV vs ICE is the way to go for us....eventually!

My wife's car will be the first as she really only drives it locally or occasionally 150 miles round trip to visit a daughter. But for these same reasons it is a in expensive used car with over 90k miles...not a $45k plus EV.
When we can get a good used EV for < than $15k we can replace it.

Our other car is newer, a bit plusher as we use it for trips....several 350 plus miles in a day per year and many 200 mile days in winter. I am very skeptical in doing 200 miles a day in winter and ANY EV today.
Running in the cold with snow tires in snow will cut milage a lot! 20 35%??. Runining the heater, defroster, etc will cut the milage another 20-30%?? ( I believe most are simple resistance heaters though I have heard that Tesla uses a heat pump in it D model.)...If these assumption are close to being correct (I have seen no real winter milage test anywhere) the range will approx 120 mile with little margin for error.
I'm just not willing to pony up $45-80K for such a car yet.

If I were a city or even a suburban person the calculus might be different.

So a plug in hybrid SUV is most likely our next new car.

Check out the Toyota Rav4 PHEV. One of my neighbors really likes theirs.

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#45 | RE: What other motorized vehicles do you own? datum

Wed Dec 29, 2021 1:46 am

Yes

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