Off Topic » NYC motorcycle check point video

Here is a video of a poor Royal Enfield-riding motorcyclist being hassled at a NYC motorcycle checkpoint. Kind of like what other states use to catch drunk drivers. You would think that 9 cops would have better things to do in that city? And what is it about not wanting anything stuck to a helmet, not even a Mohawk decoration, much less a go pro camera? When the rider asks for a reference to a statue that provides for that prohibition, the cops go into double-talk mode when they can't find one. What a bunch of jerks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=38&v=1xT3dvYh72g

What a bunch of bs. Most of them looked like rookies and certainly acted that way. I liked the YouTube comments about asking for a ticket -- I doubt they would have been able to cite the violated code on the ticket. This was either a rookie initiation for that precinct or just plain harassment of bikers.

The irony of the officer telling the rider that he could not wear his camera while wearing a body camera of his own is telling.

I thumbed through the abuse...er...Utube comments - surely somebody would post the actual law if indeed there was one. And sure enough somebody did. Those cops were correct, NYC law contains a statute that specifically prohibits anything being attached externally to a motorbike helmet. They were also fairly polite and tried to be helpful from what I saw, especially the one that stepped in and did most of the talking. A couple of them eyeballed the bike, nothing obviously wrong, bike checked. (Can't believe people actually whinged that police did not check the bike!) They checked rego and licence to confirm ownership and asked him to remove helmet cam, no ticket.

It's a stupid and needless law of course. But cops can't change it and are forced to uphold it. So acknowledge that, be respectful, and pop your camera back on at your next petrol stop.

As for roadside bike checks, my first thought is it's a bit extreme. Then I recall all the UK videos saying how bike theft is rampant and police do nothing. Well, which one is it boys and girls?


https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/49/571.218
Scroll to section 5.5 Projections.

Zitat von PeteT im Beitrag #4

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As for roadside bike checks, my first thought is it's a bit extreme. Then I recall all the UK videos saying how bike theft is rampant and police do nothing. Well, which one is it boys and girls?

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Of the nine, one is directing bikers to the roadside, there seems to be three pairs ready to interview - two further down the road well away, two talking with a previous biker just in front, and the two that received the vlogger - and a couple of others including the guy that stepped in who probably run the show. Pretty harsh calling that 9 cops for one biker. We often have similar over here for random drug and alcohol testing.

I provided the link and navigating instructions to illustrate the lengthy and complicated text of the law. Good luck to anybody trying to "google" the tiny relevant piece on Projections on the fly - Buckley's.

Look, there are plenty of other videos showing cops acting like arseholes and those shits deserve everything that's coming their way. But this vlogger's narrative is suggesting he was wronged when his vid only shows cops doing their job properly and in good spirit. Interesting vid - misguided message.

This reeks of cops in training. I'll bet there was a training sergeant lurking somewhere. If it was an easy job everyone would do it Yes they are a bit 'cocksure' but it is NYC.

Zitat von PeteT im Beitrag #6

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Of the nine, one is directing bikers to the roadside, there seems to be three pairs ready to interview - two further down the road well away, two talking with a previous biker just in front, and the two that received the vlogger - and a couple of others including the guy that stepped in who probably run the show. Pretty harsh calling that 9 cops for one biker. We often have similar over here for random drug and alcohol testing.

I provided the link and navigating instructions to illustrate the lengthy and complicated text of the law. Good luck to anybody trying to "google" the tiny relevant piece on Projections on the fly - Buckley's.

Look, there are plenty of other videos showing cops acting like arseholes and those shits deserve everything that's coming their way. But this vlogger's narrative is suggesting he was wronged when his vid only shows cops doing their job properly and in good spirit. Interesting vid - misguided message.

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The outrage that Americans feel is due to the 4th Amendment to the US Constitution (Re Illegal Search and Seizure). What the officers are doing is an illegal search (no probable cause to detain) and it is being executed on only a selected group (discriminatory profiling). However, it should come as no surprise in the Big Apple; they have had a "Stop and Frisk" policy that is likewise in conflict with the US Bill of Rights for ten years. The targets for that effort are most often African Americans and Hispanics...

Sorry failed to finish my post before uploading

As a way of appreciating the true situation, I wonder how many people here would be happy if they could be filmed at any moment when doing their jobs . [/quote] Yep these guys might not have been the perfect version of themselves but how many of us are all the time. I thought the guy who tried to find the code was helpful and informative ...

Does the painter always rub down with all grades of paper ?

Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #11

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...I do have a civil role with statutory powers that could result in a person being detained against their will.

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I was a police officer in a busy UK City for 10 years. I didn’t join the ‘job’ until I was 40 having had a professional engineering career beforehand. For me, being a copper was an itch unscratched.

Generally, I had a great time. I worked with some top people who impressed me no end. There were some coppers, always blokes in my experience, who abused their position and could be real dick heads. The stories I could tell. The thing is, back then they generally got on because of the culture. Most coppers in my experience have an ‘us and them’ mentality born of their backgrounds and reinforced by their filtered experiences.

Having been civilianised (for the 2nd time) nearly 15 years I always treat police officers with caution. Most are great but they wield much power and some do abuse it.

It’s not an easy job. It tends to attract people with a number of traits that can be both good and bad. Doing the job and viewing the world from a sheltered and filtered experience can lead to all sorts of problems, many of which can be seen in the news and on YouTube.

Off the subject of the police intervention, I personally worry about accessories attached to a helmet.
Maybe GoPro etc. have a release mechanism in case of a shock, but there will always be something that could catch if you're sliding down the road with the helmet touching.

A long... time ago I was taught never to put anything on a helmet that could increase friction.

Maybe I'm paranoid, but it's just a thought.

Wasn't it the GoPro that caused most damage to Michael Schumacher?