RE: Side stand swap - 2

Zitat von AZGeek im Beitrag #15

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I called my local shop and asked about shortening the side stand. I actually called to see how much they would charge for a new side stand that I could shorten and was told they would shorten the side stand for me for $200. That seems steep but not when compared to the cost of a new stand ($203, Part #46 53 8 540 829), and then getting it cut, welded, and painted. I need to ask some more questions around warranty, etc., so I understand what recourse I would have if the weld fails and the bike goes over, as well as how much time they will need the bike in the shop. My farkle fund has been depleted so I've got to get that replenished before I consider doing that mod.

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I have read, probably on the old list, that as an alternative to modifying the side stand, an increased lean angle can be obtained by slightly filing the stop at the top of the stand. Entirely controllable as to how much is filed, and costs nothing.

Zitat von Lee im Beitrag #14

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Zitat von Bunter im Beitrag #12

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Although useful I've never found that technique to make much of a difference to the bikes lean angle plus it relies on my frail human brain which gets over excited at photo stops. So I decided to correct the cause.

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It helps, but like you I rarely remember to do it.

Your thread is very helpful because I have wondered how much would need to be removed from the stand to give it a better lean.

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Zitat von Alda im Beitrag #18

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Zitat von Lee im Beitrag #14

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Zitat von Bunter im Beitrag #12

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Although useful I've never found that technique to make much of a difference to the bikes lean angle plus it relies on my frail human brain which gets over excited at photo stops. So I decided to correct the cause.

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It helps, but like you I rarely remember to do it.

Your thread is very helpful because I have wondered how much would need to be removed from the stand to give it a better lean.

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You could try placing shims under the front and rear wheels. Try 10mm initially and see how the bike looks.
Reducing or increasing till you are happy with the lean angle should give you an idea of the amount you would have to remove.
Should work in theory, I think, but open to counter theories.
Alan

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Zitat von Tony101 im Beitrag #16

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There are several used side stands on Ebay for considerably less than $203.

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Zitat von Alda im Beitrag #18

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You could try placing shims under the front and rear wheels. Try 10mm initially and see how the bike looks.
Reducing or increasing till you are happy with the lean angle should give you an idea of the amount you would have to remove.
Should work in theory, I think, but open to counter theories.

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Zitat von AZGeek im Beitrag #21

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Zitat von Alda im Beitrag #18

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You could try placing shims under the front and rear wheels. Try 10mm initially and see how the bike looks.
Reducing or increasing till you are happy with the lean angle should give you an idea of the amount you would have to remove.
Should work in theory, I think, but open to counter theories.

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I agree that should work. I am planning on parking on a 1/2" thick sheet of plywood to raise the bike and then have the side stand on ground level. That should approximate the bike lean with the side stand shortened by 1/2".

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Presumably there must be some reason why BMW chose the sidestand to be the length that it is? It's such a basic design thing that surely it can't be a simple mistake?

I continue to believe that the length of the side stand was someone's (probably upper management) effort to make the RS easier to lift up off of its stand so as to make the bike feel lighter to potential customers in the showroom.

Zitat von Freddyfruitbat im Beitrag #23

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there must be some reason why BMW chose the sidestand to be the length that it is?

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Zitat von Holger im Beitrag #24

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Zitat von Freddyfruitbat im Beitrag #23

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it can't be a simple mistake?

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The idea that it could not be a design flaw I did not have because it is so bad.
But you're right, it could be some BMW engineer had something in mind with this construction.

So I wrote to BMW Motorrad to give me the reason for the chosen construction of the side stand.
Should BMW answer me I will report here - I'm curious!

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Perhaps the real question to be asked is why are not all BMW motorcycles designed to lean over at the same angle on their side stands?

Zitat von Richard230 im Beitrag #28

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Perhaps the real question to be asked is why are not all BMW motorcycles designed to lean over at the same angle on their side stands?

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Zitat von AZGeek im Beitrag #29

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Exactly! My last stress-inducing side stand fiasco was when I was on the same camber right next to a buddy on his 2018 1200GS. His bike had plenty of lean while mine was almost vertical. And he had a foot pad enlarger which added (slightly) to the length of his side stand.

I don’t want to imply that I had side stand envy, but I wasn’t comforted by mine being longer. 😜

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