RE: INNOVV Third Eye - 2

Zitat von Mr. 36654 im Beitrag #7

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Not being perfect, anything that helps me be more aware (alert) is good.

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Zitat von littleade im Beitrag #15

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Zitat von Steady Eddie im Beitrag #13

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littleade, it looks like you have a rear facing camera centrally mounted under the top box mounting rack. Would you have mounted the radar detector there if that space was not already occupied?

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Probably not Eddie. My camera is quite light in comparison and is held in place by a 3M double sided sticky pad fixed to the underneath of the rear rack so if I was to put the radar sensor there I'd have had to drill a hole in the rack, which I wasn't keen on doing. Where I've mounted it it uses an existing T25 mount for the rear plastic panel so what I've done is used a deeper collared T25 screw to fix the bracket to the bike and put a bit of helicopter tape on the panel around the mounting hole to protect it

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Zitat von Steady Eddie im Beitrag #17

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Zitat von littleade im Beitrag #15

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Zitat von Steady Eddie im Beitrag #13

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littleade, it looks like you have a rear facing camera centrally mounted under the top box mounting rack. Would you have mounted the radar detector there if that space was not already occupied?

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Probably not Eddie. My camera is quite light in comparison and is held in place by a 3M double sided sticky pad fixed to the underneath of the rear rack so if I was to put the radar sensor there I'd have had to drill a hole in the rack, which I wasn't keen on doing. Where I've mounted it it uses an existing T25 mount for the rear plastic panel so what I've done is used a deeper collared T25 screw to fix the bracket to the bike and put a bit of helicopter tape on the panel around the mounting hole to protect it

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I've just ordered mine so just looking at the possibilities. Same mirror mount version as yours. I was thinking of mounting the L and R LED indicators on the vertical faces of the clutch and brake master cylinder resevoirs facing rearward for a good view. I like your idea on the sides of the TFT too. I'll decide when it arrives.

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Had a bit of a tidy up of the electrics today under the seat and moved the INNOVV displays on to the top of the TFT security bracket to bring them more into my eyeline. The sound is quite difficult to switch on and off and I had to use a fingernail to do it (default is on) so I contacted INNOVV to see it this was normal. Apparently it is because of thr need to make the units waterproof and they offered to change them for the latest ones as they keep the sound on/off settings until you change them manually but as the system took some time to fit I think I’ll stick with the current unit.

I believe Ducati is the first brand to factory fit rear radar, new top of the line Multistrada is posed to have it.

The small passive indicator in the mirrors or the dash would be a welcome addition in my opinion (obviously as a $ option in true BMW fashion).

It's one of the few such things lately that I enjoy in my car as well. Especially with the increase in the number of foreign delivery riders on scooters. They're often from SE Asia where I suppose 'anything' goes for traffic and it doesn't quite fit the European streets and I'd rather not have someone riding a small 50cc fartmobile in my blindspot either on my conscience or in my rear quarter-panel paint.

But I agree with zer0 the lane assist and emergency braking is a hit and miss. European streets and rural roads tend to be narrow and people park where they can - it often freaks out the system and it will constantly try to correct your lane-keeping even if you're intentionally trying to slightly adjust to avoid a massive pothole, roadkill or a piece of bush poking onto the road. Or slam the brakes if a parked vehicle is poking out a bit more thinking it's going to crash.

It comes as standard per EU regulations and it needs to be shut off manually usually buried in menus every time. You can have a qualified techie remove it once out of warranty but theoretically if anyone were to check it could fail the MOT (highly unlikely).

I would enjoy the option to permanently remove it personally, but on the other hand if nothing else I'd also be understanding of the driver behind me having it on by default when they decide watching Youtube or scrolling Instagram is an appropriate activity while driving and I'm sitting in my car/bike on a red light ahead of them...

Further to Littleade's comments, I have installed INNOV Third Eye on my RS. Like him, I have done bit of tatting about with wires and positioning- I went for the 'watch' version (it's all a matter of personal choice) and connected it via a HealTech Thunderbox.

Bear in mind that I understand those who think this is more technology than they need or want - but I have no visibility in my right eye. I will continue my shoulder checks and use of blind spot mirrors (Riderscan) etc - but my early feedback is that it is very good. I like the beeper noise - it's an air raid siren to warn of incoming. I think that it differs from the mirror version in that the beep comes from the 'watch', not from under the seat.

Cheers

Nice one Beerman,

Where did you mount yours? You are correct, the sound comes from the seperate control box which I have under my seat. I put it under the seat after watching others who'd fitted one on YouTube, but there's nothing to stop it being located elsewhere on the bike so I'm going to see how things go before I potentially put it somewhere else. I might end up putting the control unit up front in the headstock/cockpit area if I think hearing the beeper will be an advantage. If I do decide to do that I'd have to take the tank panels off (again) uninstall it and start again, but anyone doing it afresh would only need to extend the power supply lead to reach their power source. Sometimes it's a pain being a trend setter

Zitat von Valks im Beitrag #20

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But I agree with zer0 the lane assist and emergency braking is a hit and miss. European streets and rural roads tend to be narrow and people park where they can - it often freaks out the system and it will constantly try to correct your lane-keeping even if you're intentionally trying to slightly adjust to avoid a massive pothole, roadkill or a piece of bush poking onto the road. Or slam the brakes if a parked vehicle is poking out a bit more thinking it's going to crash.

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Taking the panels off, and getting them back on, is a bit of a pain.

I mounted it it with the sticker to the right of the TFT screen, but the only flat area is a bit low and it is obscured by cables running to the bars. So...I'm going to fix it to a clip attached to the bars. I haven't done it yet - when I have, Ill post the pic.

I'm not used to the trendsetter bit....

Beerman, where did you mount the rear facing unit?

Zitat von Steady Eddie im Beitrag #24

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Zitat von Valks im Beitrag #20

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But I agree with zer0 the lane assist and emergency braking is a hit and miss. European streets and rural roads tend to be narrow and people park where they can - it often freaks out the system and it will constantly try to correct your lane-keeping even if you're intentionally trying to slightly adjust to avoid a massive pothole, roadkill or a piece of bush poking onto the road. Or slam the brakes if a parked vehicle is poking out a bit more thinking it's going to crash.

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Valks, I don't see that the INNOVV system will be falsely triggered by any stationary roadside objects such as you mention. Its design is such that it can only be triggered by a following vehicle whose velocity relative to yours is such that the system sees it as approaching from the rear or maintaining a constant velocity relative to you either directly behind you or in an adjacent lane. As I understand, it should work equally well on multi lane highways or narrow country roads.
Mine has just arrived (mirror version), so I'll get to installing it in the next week or so.
Looking forward to a road test from Beerman or littleade. Mine will follow at some point, I'm sure.

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In the same place as you, I think. I used the existing torx screw - you said you used a longer one, but it did work with the existing. I was concerned that the screws and retaining screws for the unit would loosen with the vibration, but it hasn't happened.

So the unit is offset slightly from centre, to the right as you look as it. It does not seem to reduce the ability of the unit to detect traffic from the left or the right.

Interesting that you fitted the monitor partly through the smaller mirrors of the RS and the canted forward riding position. I fitted Wunderlich bars and a lower seat; the effect of all that makes the riding position more upright, which suits me. I also put Hornig mirror extenders on - they don't make the mirrors any bigger or closer, but they do improve visibility.

This is where the 'watch' is sited.

Here are some pics of how I have just installed the mirror version. I already had the Healtech Thunderbox installed, so I used that to power the INNOVV.
I rode round a bit today to get a feel for it, and I have to say it works very well in terms of detecting vehicles in the L&R blind spots and approaching from directly behind. Extremely reliable, does not miss a thing, even another motorcycle or pedestrian.

The position that I have placed the LED indicators on either side of the TFT screen is probably not optimal, however. They are not really in my natural forward line of sight.
I may move them to a higher position as littleade suggests. Maybe on the bar that I use for the QuadLock phone mount, but for now I'm happy overall.

Not visible in the pics, but I ran the wiring for the LEDS along the RH side low down and inside the RH tank panel (but not attached to it), then up to the TFT. That was the time-consuming part.

Although I mounted the rear facing radar unit right of center, there is absolutely no detrimental effect that I notice. I could have mounted it centrally under the top box rack and above the taillight, but I was reluctant to drill the rack for that. That luggage rack bolt hole goes right through BTW. I just ran a 6mm tap through to thread the hole all the way so I could use a longer bolt. Very sturdy.

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