RE: 2023 Does not look good for BMW - 2

I was speaking with a fellow who works at a (relatively) local BMW motorcycle shop today and he mentioned that they are getting a few 2022 GS and RT 1250 models dribbling in to their showroom. They are "fully loaded" with every accessory BMW can find at the factory to stuff on them. However some bikes are arriving with certain expected components missing, such as the radio on the RT and the LED headlight being replaced with a halogen bulb. BMW does let the shop know which components have been deleted from the bikes. I forgot to ask him if the lack of those items has reduced the MSRP any. (Probably not would be my guess.)

Order sheet says 22’ and now available VIN says 22’ also. Not past code 150 “in production” as of 8/19

Zitat von Richard230 im Beitrag #15

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I just received a promotional email from J&P Cycles, a company that specializes in H-D bike parts and accessories, who is running a contest of some sort where the grand prize is a BMW R18B (B for Bagger), which they say is valued at $24K. It sounds like BMWNA is really getting desperate to unload their R18 inventory if they have to get a Harley shop to move them out of their warehouse. I bet they gave J&P a big discount on the bike. Or maybe they paid them to take the bike off of their hands.

BTW, the day before I received an email from BMWMOA advising me that my $162 rebate for buying a set of Dunlop RS4 tires from J&B is in the mail and should be arriving soon.

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My dealer sent me an email last week advertising a $5000 worth of discounts and incentives for taking one of their several R18s off of their hands. Needless to say I didn't respond.

Zitat von Richard230 im Beitrag #19

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My dealer sent me an email last week advertising a $5000 worth of discounts and incentives for taking one of their several R18s off of their hands. Needless to say I didn't respond.

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Zitat von Mr. 36654 im Beitrag #20

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Zitat von Richard230 im Beitrag #19

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My dealer sent me an email last week advertising a $5000 worth of discounts and incentives for taking one of their several R18s off of their hands. Needless to say I didn't respond.

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I've been hearing $8,000 in discounts is to be expected.

But, since your dealer is only going to 60% of this years production, what's he going to do with all that showroom space? Sounds like he and other BMW dealers need to take on additional lines to so they can pay their mortgages..........

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That is the case for all but one of the BMW dealers in the SF Bay Area. They have all taken on several more brands of motorcycles to keep them afloat and to have something to sell. It makes sense when each brand is individually impacted by a slow supply chain, but it you have multiple brands you can always be selling something - even if they aren't BMWs. One good example is the big BMW dealer east of Sacramento, A&S. During the past few years in addition to BMW they have taken on Ducati, Energica, Royal Enfield and Triumph franchises. Right now they are pushing the new Royal Enfield 350 Classic series as a good starter or second bike. Apparently, they have lots of those on the showroom floor right now.

The BMW dealer that I have frequented for the past 40 years, Calmoto, sells BMW, KTM, Energica, and Vespa motor scooters. However, the last time I was in SF BMW they were only selling and servicing BMW bikes.

Let's see what these guys say............

https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/global/ar...to-30-june-2022

Zitat von Richard230 im Beitrag #22

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That is the case for all but one of the BMW dealers in the SF Bay Area. They have all taken on several more brands of motorcycles to keep them afloat and to have something to sell. It makes sense when each brand is individually impacted by a slow supply chain, but it you have multiple brands you can always be selling something - even if they aren't BMWs. One good example is the big BMW dealer east of Sacramento, A&S. During the past few years in addition to BMW they have taken on Ducati, Energica, Royal Enfield and Triumph franchises. Right now they are pushing the new Royal Enfield 350 Classic series as a good starter or second bike. Apparently, they have lots of those on the showroom floor right now.

The BMW dealer that I have frequented for the past 40 years, Calmoto, sells BMW, KTM, Energica, and Vespa motor scooters. However, the last time I was in SF BMW they were only selling and servicing BMW bikes.

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Zitat von Mr. 36654 im Beitrag #23

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Let's see what these guys say............

https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/global/ar...to-30-june-2022

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Zitat von Mr. 36654 im Beitrag #24

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Zitat von Richard230 im Beitrag #22

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That is the case for all but one of the BMW dealers in the SF Bay Area. They have all taken on several more brands of motorcycles to keep them afloat and to have something to sell. It makes sense when each brand is individually impacted by a slow supply chain, but it you have multiple brands you can always be selling something - even if they aren't BMWs. One good example is the big BMW dealer east of Sacramento, A&S. During the past few years in addition to BMW they have taken on Ducati, Energica, Royal Enfield and Triumph franchises. Right now they are pushing the new Royal Enfield 350 Classic series as a good starter or second bike. Apparently, they have lots of those on the showroom floor right now.

The BMW dealer that I have frequented for the past 40 years, Calmoto, sells BMW, KTM, Energica, and Vespa motor scooters. However, the last time I was in SF BMW they were only selling and servicing BMW bikes.

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Have any of those dealers reduced the floor area/space assigned to BMW when they took on the other lines?

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Zitat von Mr. 36654 im Beitrag #24

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Zitat von Richard230 im Beitrag #22

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That is the case for all but one of the BMW dealers in the SF Bay Area. They have all taken on several more brands of motorcycles to keep them afloat and to have something to sell. It makes sense when each brand is individually impacted by a slow supply chain, but it you have multiple brands you can always be selling something - even if they aren't BMWs. One good example is the big BMW dealer east of Sacramento, A&S. During the past few years in addition to BMW they have taken on Ducati, Energica, Royal Enfield and Triumph franchises. Right now they are pushing the new Royal Enfield 350 Classic series as a good starter or second bike. Apparently, they have lots of those on the showroom floor right now.

The BMW dealer that I have frequented for the past 40 years, Calmoto, sells BMW, KTM, Energica, and Vespa motor scooters. However, the last time I was in SF BMW they were only selling and servicing BMW bikes.

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Have any of those dealers reduced the floor area/space assigned to BMW when they took on the other lines?

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Off-hand the ones that I can think of have separate walled-off showroom areas for BMW bikes that partition them from the other brands.

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I was up at my dealer today installing a new set of Dunlop Roadsmart IV tires and they received 2 - 2022 R1250RS models yesterday. Both were still in the crate. Blue one and white one. They frequently ship bikes around the US and to Canada. From what I understood both are fully loaded.

Moon Motorsports in Monticello, MN

Zitat von darrell im Beitrag #28

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I was up at my dealer today installing a new set of Dunlop Roadsmart IV tires and they received 2 - 2022 R1250RS models yesterday. Both were still in the crate. Blue one and white one. They frequently ship bikes around the US and to Canada. From what I understood both are fully loaded.

Moon Motorsports in Monticello, MN

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There ARE bikes on Cycle Trader, but if you've ever shipped a bike, you know the cost addition makes an already-expensive bike much more so. But I suppose if you REALLY had to have one, "damn the cost, full speed ahead".

The Euro energy crisis is going to be a factor for BMW in Germany, so the production cuts are understandable. Maybe a GS is the way to go...plenty of them around.