Tuning and modding » R-bars Vs Wunderlich kit Vs Heli-bars etc

I haven't taken delivery of my RS yet, but I know there will be a few minor changes and among them will be some adjustments to the ergos - the bars will have to be a bit higher.

Has anyone done a direct comparison of the various options?

Comparisons would be FAR more useful than anyone saying "I have XYZ and it works great for me", which tells you almost nothing.

I won't be buying anything in advance, and won't make any changes until I have a few miles on the bike.

I'm not sure, as yet - looking to see what options are available. As I mentioned, I need a decent amount of seat time before changing anything.

One of the things i want to be careful with is the difference in feel / tip in between the R and the RS. I found the RS requires more deliberation to turn, and overall yields a less involved, less direct, less engaged sensation than the R, making a bit less fun to ride. The compensation of the RS is improved air management, as I find anything over about 70 on the R to be quite uncomfortable from a noise/turbulence perspective, no matter what screen is fitted (I've tried 7 to date).

The interstate - unavoidable where I live, if you want to get to better roads - is a miserable experience for me on the R; the RS is much better.

I'm a little concerned that raising the bars too much, or moving them back too much, or a combo of too much of both, might exacerbate that difference between R & RS. And I don't want to turn the RS into an RT.

Amazing how much difference about 1/2" of wheelbase makes...

I tried having risers but went back to the standard setup. I like the sporty position and actually don't get much additional comfort from having risers anyway.

I have the Hornig bar risers, which I like.

At least with bicycles, if you're raising the bars, you generally also want to have them come back also. Think about how you rotate at the waist as you sit up.

Zitat von Ali-bear im Beitrag #4

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I tried having risers but went back to the standard setup. I like the sporty position and actually don't get much additional comfort from having risers anyway.

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Well I don't own a 1250 RS BUT I do own a 1200 RS and I have been able to fit 2 different types of risers the first was a straight up riser with a 25mm height these made some difference but not enough
Then I bought a set of HEL up and back risers these made a bigger difference but still something was missing as others have stated the bike still felt vague but settled in during turn in and my shoulder,back (post operation) and other parts were still sore but big 400mile days were still do able

Then I put on a wunderlich conversion and in my case at least I can now travel 500 miles in a day with a few stops for coffee /gas along the way with no major discomfort and the turn in is sooo muuuch better with the wider bars and seems to require very little effort to effect change
the bars being rotated to be nearly parallel to the ground at the control surfaces instead of pointing down and out as the stock set up does has made a world of difference to me

My Bike has the stock 820mm seat height fitment ESA suspension
I stand 6,2 and a bit in bare feet and weigh around 115 kilograms my body is broken in most areas from being A hands on Truck driver for over 37 years and having taken a few tumbles off the truck and various bikes over the years

your mileage may vary based on many differing variables

Welcome to the addiction of adapting a bike to be yours and shiny bling ..........just like Gollum says....... MY Preciooouuussss

Zitat von Steady Eddie im Beitrag #6

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.... The R fork does not have the axle offset that the RS does. ....

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Zitat von Ali-bear im Beitrag #8

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Zitat von Steady Eddie im Beitrag #6

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.... The R fork does not have the axle offset that the RS does. ....

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Oh I didn't know about that. Could be expensive changing over the forks tho!

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About $780 x 2, I think, having looked at the MAX BMW parts fiche, I think.

It looks like all the other fork parts are the same, so this is certainly a viable path and one that will most probably be taken.

A not in-expensive mod, but one which may well be worth it.

But back to the original question - does anyone have any comparative data re the various means of "adjusting" the bars?

Short answer, Yes.
But you'll have to wait until I've finished fitting and then road testing the Wunderlich handlebars. Just ordered the Voigt brake line extender from very helpful Mike at Sporttouring.com

I'll hold you to this;)

Ok Thunderbird-some news please