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so picked up nice new shiney bike r1250rs yesterday and have just fitted all the luggage , and the miss's struggles to get on it the givi topbox is too far forward and the v37 panniers don't give here enough room ,now i know the simple solution is to leave the miss's at home and go out on my own but trust me this isn't a option , so anybody want a brand new set of v37 panniers and plxr 5117 givi rails and a v47 topbox and sr5117 plate , don't really know which direction to take with this ideally a Bacaruda plate would solve the topbox problem but rare as hens teeth i could down grade the panniers to the v35 i know they are smaller or sell everything and go with bmw luggage and remortgage the house . any thoughts appreciated

Are you saying she has trouble getting on and off the bike, or she does not have enough room once seated?

has trouble getting on and off and when seated she is sat too far forward and pushing me into the tank .

Would the BMW Soft Case give more room?
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thanks for the picture , looks like the soft case is protuding onto the pillion seat so not too sure if that would help

I'd suggest diet and exercise, but then you'd be posting from the hospital.

good point, but haven't the courage to suggest that maybe a bottle of wine less a day may help looks like the issue maybe solved i have been looking at the shad fitment and looks like there boxes sit further back on the bmw rack , so have ordered a 39L topbox and plate for delivery tomorrow from sportbikeshop.com so fingers crossed this may solve that problem then may look at getting the 36L panniers from shad as well just leaves me to sell all my givi gear

I have a similar problem, I recently bought a Givi plate of a fellow forum member (thanks Andy) and then went and ordered a Kappa K48N top box and the additional backrest. But with the backrest fitted it pushes you too far forward with half your arse of the front of the pillion seat. Without the back rest it just about allows enough room. Surely this is poor design from a company who would describe themselves as luggage specialists. In my excitement I threw away the packaging for the backrest so can't return it

I agree the Givi plate was designed by a committee that never met! I managed to acquire a Baccaruda plate which puts the box back by about 1 inch.

I started with the Givi plate having acquired a used E460 which I got resprayed to match the colour matched panniers. That came with a deep back rest which I took off.

It occurs to me that back rests are a bit of a waste of time and money as well as space. Surely most pillions are wearing back protectors?

I am still looking for a sort of rubbing strake to go on the E460 so that a pillion does not rub against the paintwork of the E460. That is all it really needs - something no more than 1 cm deep.

An alternative solution for others who might come across the same problem especially if acquiring a bike 2nd hand and it arrives with a Givi plate but without a top box - I have a 2nd Givi top box - A Givi WL901 "Weighless" 29/34 litre. That is extremely light being made of the same sort of polymers as light weight travel luggage. Your pillion can safely lean into that and it will curve inward and absorb trunk weight. For anyone wearing a back protector it will be quite comfortable (I have had no complaints from my occasional pillion). It also looks well suited to the RS with a classic centre hump mimicking BMW boxes of old. However nothing is perfect - it has a lockable zip fastener. I use it for days out. I am not sure the zip is up to heavy duty use with the box bulging-full on a tour. But it is very light weight which I like. I have a strong dislike of weight outside the wheelbase (which is also why I chose an E460 rather than a 56 litre box to use when touring).

Chris

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don't really know which direction to take with this ideally a Bacaruda plate would solve the topbox problem but rare as hens teeth i could down grade the panniers to the v35 i know they are smaller or sell everything and go with bmw luggage and remortgage the house . any thoughts appreciated

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I have the OEM panniers and top box, this thread has made me realise how fortunate I am that my wife is slim and flexible , so far no issues raised by her with pillion seat length or the backrest. She does complain that the separate seat and height impede vision for her compared to the bench seat on my old R100RS, so not much positive progress over 40 years of seat evolution!

well i got over this problem with purchasing the shad metal bike specific plate and brought a sh39 topbox which come with the plastic fitting plate with lots of holes for various fitting positions i drilled some more 10mm holes in the metal plate which allowed me to move the topbox back resulting in more room for the pillion , and have since changed for the sh47 topbox which has a straighter back and not curved like the sh39 now has plenty of room