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Newbie question. I've just bought a 2016 RS SE Sports which came with a satnav cradle but no satnav.
I've been told my cradle (see pic) will accept a Nav IV or a Nav V but not a Nav VI, does anyone know if this is correct?
I've also been told that a Zumo 660 is the same thing as a Nav IV and will fit the same cradle, is that right?
And given that it seems to be cheaper to buy than the Nav IV will a 660 still work with the thumbwheel?
Does anything else fit?
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There would be merit in getting a Nav V or Nav VI. It will give you bike info that will not be available otherwise (I can get it on my TFT).

Nav VIs get listed every day on Ebay. Typically you pay circa £450. I got mine for £400 (It helps having a Zumo 660 which allowed me to be patient and wait for the right deal)

Chris

If you buy used, the Nav V is the best bang for the buck.

I have heard that the Nav 6 has more problems than the 5, as well as being more expensive?
Do all of these automatically include lifetime maps these days or do I need to watch for ads that specifically mention it?

I've had a 660 and now a Navigator V on my 2018. I like that the Nav V will link to my phone and make it smart, route you around traffic. Access from the wheel is nice as well. Can't speak to the VI but it looks like someone else with first hand experience has.

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I have heard that the Nav 6 has more problems than the 5, as well as being more expensive?

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Do all of these automatically include lifetime maps these days

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Newbie question. I've just bought a 2016 RS SE Sports which came with a satnav cradle but no satnav.
I've been told my cradle (see pic) will accept a Nav IV or a Nav V but not a Nav VI, does anyone know if this is correct?
I've also been told that a Zumo 660 is the same thing as a Nav IV and will fit the same cradle, is that right?
And given that it seems to be cheaper to buy than the Nav IV will a 660 still work with the thumbwheel?

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I have the same cradle as shown in your photo, as well as the Nav IV and the Nav VI.

The Nav VI fits in the cradle perfectly since it was designed for it - don't know who gave you wrong information about it not fitting. The Nav IV also fits in the cradle but the locking slide tab behind the cradle (on the left when looking forward) does not slide freely when the Nav IV is mounted, but it does slide when a little force is exerted. With the Nav VI both tabs slide very easily. The cradle you have will fit a Nav V just as easily as the Nav VI.

I don't know about the Zumo 660 and its functionality, but from what I have heard it does not work [fully?] with the wonderwheel. It will fit the cradle just fine.

The Nav IV works partially with the thumbwheel in that you can go left and right through the screens, but map zoom does not appear to work. I have not ride tested the Nav IV on this cradle. Compared to the Nav V and Nav VI, you do not want to get the Nav IV because the touchscreen is old technology in that it is less touch sensitive and easily washed out in sunlight.

The Nav V may be the better value when compared with the Nav VI, but only because it does not have the screen defect that some Nav VI units seem to have. Aside from that, the Nav VI has a brighter screen and has other features that make it the best Navigator from BMW Motorrad. Both the Nav V and Nav VI integrate fully with the bike's telemetrics, whereas the others mentioned above do not. It is the screen responsiveness and brightness, as well as the telemetrics integration that I appreciate.

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When I had my 660, the wheel did nothing. Everything had to be done on the screen. I got it second hand and it was cheap. You only get what you pay for which is why a grabbed a Nav V from my local dealer when they had a used one for $300. I was able to sell the 660 for $250, so not bad.

I got a Nav-6 with the new bike because most of the cost was covered by a special offer, £500 worth of free accessories, and I wasn't looking for any other bits at the time.
One benefit of getting it with the bike is it's covered by the bikes warranty, however long that is.
It works perfectly for me.

I bought a Nav VI to replace my well used Zumo 660 that is now about 15 years old (I think!). I can now use the 'wonder wheel' and the screen is much brighter. However, apart from that, for my purposes, the Zumo worked just as well and although I have had no trouble with the Nav VI, in all honesty, I would not do the same again. I would just continue with the Zumo that I still have and which, in spite of what has been said above, has no problems with map updates, for me at least - so far! I don't find myself using the 'wonder wheel' normally and having tested it out initially, have hardly touched it since! I found that the solution to the rather dull screen on the Zumo was to buy a sun visor for it. This makes it perfectly useable in sunlight and did not cost £450, although it was far too expensive for what it is! One other thing is that the Zumo has a built in speaker and so you can just plug it in to the cigar lighter in any car and use the supplied 'sucker mount' on the windscreen. The Nav VI has no speaker and so you have to buy a special (very expensive) mount with a built-in speaker in order to use it in the car.

I will keep the Nav VI because the brighter screen is nice and the layout, graphics etc. are better but with hindsight would not buy one to replace the Zumo. I also have a sentimental attachment to the Zumo because it was bought for me as a present by my children - probably the best present they have ever bought for me! I can also confirm that they both fit onto the standard cradle. I have three cradles now, one on my R1200 and one on my Triumph plus the sucker/speaker model for the car. Someone will no doubt recommend running the Nav VI through the car's sound system but after multiple attempts to do this, I gave up. I am though, not the smartest cookie in the jar with tech., so someone else would probably find this perfectly easy! It is also useful to be able to transfer it between cars (one of which is far too old to have fancy-pants electronic, Blue Tooth pairing capabilities, so the speaker cradle is fairly essential for me anyway.

Just my two penny/euros/cents-worth!

I never had any issues updating maps on the 660.

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A said in earlier posts I have both the 660 and Nav VI. I have zero problems with either (and appreciate the speed and bright screen on the Nav VI). One thing that has not been mentioned so far - I don't think that the Zumo 660 will lock on the cradle. No big deal but you need to dismount it when you stop for lunch etc, etc.

I had not twigged that the Nav VI does not have a speaker. Was thinking of putting the Zumo on Ebay. In the words of a previous post my car, likewise does not have fancy pants electronic so I think I might now keep it.

Edit: I have just been out to check. I have it the wrong way round. Neither will lock on the standard Zumo cradle that I have on my F800GT. Both will lock on the RS cradle.

Chris