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Here is the latest information regarding this new H-D GS model. Better late than never, I guess. It does seem to have some interesting features that make it comparable to its competition including a new engine and a price that approaches the BMW GS and the Ducati Multistrada: https://www.motorcycle.com/manufacturer/...first-look.html

I generally don't like Harleys much, but I actually like this one. It also looks like they did a very good job with the technology.

Hopefully it does't fall apart in the first 1000 miles.

very unlikely id consider buying one, but I am interested in the engine. finally..

IF that engine were to find its way into a sports tourer or nekkid bike(RIP brooklyn) I might be inclined to have lookie loo.

I say kudos to HD (hard for me to do)

Sounds like it has the potential to be a nice motorcycle, but I'm not an ADV rider. $20k is steep but comparable. For HD's sake, I hope they aren't too late to the game.

Zitat von Richard230 im Beitrag #1

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Here is the latest information regarding this new H-D GS model. Better late than never, I guess. It does seem to have some interesting features that make it comparable to its competition including a new engine and a price that approaches the BMW GS and the Ducati Multistrada: https://www.motorcycle.com/manufacturer/...first-look.html

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HD site has full specs.

6.2 inches of trail and a 62.2 inch wheelbase. Unless they did something magical, this bike is going to be a chore to turn.

Zitat von TriangleRider im Beitrag #7

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HD site has full specs.

6.2 inches of trail and a 62.2 inch wheelbase. Unless they did something magical, this bike is going to be a chore to turn.

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The bit that interested me was:

"At a stop, the seat height is lowered by 1-2 inches, but raises the bike to normal 33.4-inch to 34.4-inch ride height once under way. This will be a game changer for shorter adventure bike fans."

That I would really appreciate being short of leg. That is on a Showa semi-active system. I have both the 840 mm and 820 mm seat for my RS. Having an effective inseam of 30" the 840mm is very comfortable for touring but I ride more elegantly in stop start riding when lightly loaded sitting on the 820mm. I "play tunes" on the suspension setting ride height to minimum when manoeuvring when touring. The Harley/Showa system takes that one stage further. I would expect that to appear on the GS sometime soon and filter down to the RS likely as as an extra cost option given the more limited benefit. It is the one feature that might persuade me to trade in my RS!!

P.S. No way I will buy the Harley.

Chris

It looking at the specs it seems Harley has done it's home work. It's new engine technology may be the most advanced of any of it's competitors! This is a big change.

I love the idea of hydraulic lifters, finally in motorcycle, was new in cars in the 50s. No more valve adjustments, easier on cams. I do wish the engine was tuned for torque vs HP like the R engine but marketing like big numbers.
The idea of auto lowering at stop seems nice but over the top at the same time. I see that they have rebound dampening adjustments, some thing that also impresses me

Zitat von TriangleRider im Beitrag #7

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HD site has full specs.

6.2 inches of trail and a 62.2 inch wheelbase. Unless they did something magical, this bike is going to be a chore to turn.

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Zitat von Sanemancured im Beitrag #11

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Zitat von TriangleRider im Beitrag #7

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HD site has full specs.

6.2 inches of trail and a 62.2 inch wheelbase. Unless they did something magical, this bike is going to be a chore to turn.

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It'll be fine on the road where most will be used, certainly in the UK.

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Based on the wheel options, this is definitely a road bike. Much like most GS's here in the States. These bikes are big and heavy and expensive. Very few riders are going to try to do serious off road on a bike like this one. IMO HD was wise to embrace that this bike is a poser. A poser that CAN do some off-roading, but won't. Not sure what it's like in the rest of the world but here in the States there are TONS of people driving around in modified Jeep Wranglers that will never even get onto a dirt road. People are image conscious, and that's what HD has been selling for a long time. HD is just trying to change that image to appeal to more and different people.

Zitat von Chubs McFun im Beitrag #13

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People are image conscious, and that's what HD has been selling for a long time. HD is just trying to change that image to appeal to more and different people.

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Zitat von Vtbob im Beitrag #10

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I love the idea of hydraulic lifters, finally in motorcycle, was new in cars in the 50s.

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