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Zitat von Lee im Beitrag #8Zitat von Ray im Beitrag #6Zitat von Zepppo im Beitrag #3 If you hold-on to bikes for 10 or 15-yrs, retaining the service records can be critical. On my Oilhead, one dealer installed a K-bike module in the O2 sensor circuit which nicely improved throttle response. At the same time, the long-expired evaporative canister was removed. The following service was performed at a different dealership (a newer shop) and the service staff was baffled on how to deal with this strangely configured older bike.
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Zitat von Ray im Beitrag #14 ditto same when buying, it's nice to have the service invoices if buying a used bike |
Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:18 pm (Last edited: Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:20 pm)
Zitat von Philbuck im Beitrag #13 I always get a itemized receipt showing amount of labor and price of parts used. Stamping my book would do no good as I never get a full service. It's interesting that UK members seem to be hung up with a BMW dealer doing all the service. Lee |
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Zitat von Lee im Beitrag #18 Same here - but a prospective buyer is unlikely to realise that, and its probably a good way of keeping them happy - and a handbook stored under the seat is more likely to survive to the next user than a sheaf of invoices. Another point is that these days, for data protection reasons a dealer won't (or shouldn't!) simply pass on said sheaf of invoices without redacting the previous owners' details (which they won't be bothered about doing), which makes a simple stamped service record more valuable I suppose. Obviously that doesn't apply to a private sale.
KC100->CB100N->CB250RS--------->DL650AL2->R1200RS
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Service records - yes for my 1981 RS I have service receipts , spare part receipts, MOT certificates, tax disks, tyre receipts etc all the way back to 1985 when I bought it. But on the old airhead most of the standard servicing was done by yours truly, a few receipts for service kits from Motorworks as well. One day someone will thank me for such strong provenance- then again I may be “6 ft under” by then, you see I’m starting to think it’s a keeper. |
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If your getting your bike serviced at a BMW dealer it’s all on the ‘system’. Surely you are not relying on an easily faked stamp in a hastily filled in service book that the dealer ‘updated’ just before they handed your second hand bike over. You know, the one with the last three services done by the selling dealer, despite the previous owner living at the other end of the country. |
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Zitat von Lee im Beitrag #18Zitat von Philbuck im Beitrag #13 It has an impact on the used value. A BMW dealer will not put a used bike into their "approved" scheme unless it has a full BMW dealer service history. The benefit of that for the next buyer is a 2 year used bike warranty. Hence, a dealer is likely to offer more in part exchange for such a bike. We have a healthy independent sector where former BMW dealer technicians set up their own workshops. Again, those buying older bikes in private sales will pay more for a bike maintained by one of these specialists. British buyers tend to be quite sceptical about DIY. As someone who used to help my father "service" family vehicles I know why this attitude developed. |
Mon Oct 12, 2020 5:35 pm (Last edited: Mon Oct 12, 2020 5:36 pm)
Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #17 I have the receipts, I make my own spreadsheet with date, mileage, parts, and cost. Provided this to the buyer of my r1200r, along with receipts. She was very pleased with the amount of information I provided her. I also add any parts I have purchased like guards, footrests, etc... Zitat von Ray im Beitrag #14 This matters to me when I buy used also. A Straight Road Never Made A Skilled Rider. |
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Zitat von Lee im Beitrag #23 my dealer is 2 miles away and they give me the choice of the demo fleet to play with for the day. Skinning my knuckles and breaking fasteners is a hassle for me, especially when I can have a jolly into the Cotswolds or Mid Wales instead. In normal circumstances I drop in periodically to kick tyres, drink a load of their coffee and eat the posh biscuits or have lunch when they get the barbie out for launch days etc. Gotta get some of that "investment" back. there's 2 more dealers within an hour in Oxford & Bristol but my local one seems to be very good so not bothered exploring those |
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There are no known reliability or maintenance issues with the R1200 RS. So, essentially, you want to see that this bike has not been treated badly. Is it clean? Is it all in one piece? Has it been modified? Check that everything works: all the handlebar buttons control something, does all this work? TPMS, cruise control, elec suspension, quick shifter, GPS mount and wonder wheel on the left handlebars, engine modes.
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Zitat von runnerhiker im Beitrag #26 All these points are very good. The clean bike is something a lot of people don't consider. If the bike is very clean, the owner was probably OCD and they were probably OCD about keeping the bike in good working condition.
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Zitat von Lee im Beitrag #27 (Of course, I've heard dealers remind those customers who want a lot in trade for the bike that "they've always kept clean," that the only difference between their bike and a neglected bike is a $100 detailing job.)
“A good man always knows his limitations.”
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I will say, I was impressed when I saw my trade-in at the dealership. A bit of wheel paint to repair those tire change and wheel weight removal scratches.........and the old girl looked pretty darn spiffy with a good deep clean. I hope the current owner is enjoying the ride.
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