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#1 | Random Stall? datum

Thu Aug 01, 2019 6:03 pm

I have not had this problem for a long time, but I thought I might as well bring it up, after I bought my RS, I was riding it around town, and the engine randomly stalled out on me, and if I remember correctly it was in second gear both times this happened. I know it was not me who stalled it because the clutch was in both times. The bike had all maintenance done, and was not reporting any problems, the bike was broken in but had less than 1,000 miles (1609.34 km)

The first time it happened, I was in the middle of a turn, second gear with clutch in, and the bike randomly stalled.
Second time, I was coming up to a red light, clutch in and downshifting, bike randomly stalled (didn't notice until I was stopped)

I captured them both on video, I don't have my SIM card on me, but if you want to see the videos I can share them, if the forum allows me to post videos. (I am still learning about the forum)
I brought the bike into the closest BMW Motorrad dealer near me, and they said that they have never seen or heard of the problem, and they put over 100 miles on my bike trying to replicate the problem with no luck, I have not had the problem since then, but I would still like to understand what happened.

Also on a side note, does anyone have a problem shifting into third gear when you are trying to accelerate fast? When I turn onto a freeway (motorway) and I am trying to get up to speed quickly, I sometimes have trouble shifting into third gear, I can pull up on that lever really hard, and it feels like there is a stopper and I end up redlining the bike really badly and I have to slow down in order for the bike to allow me to shift up. Again, I don't always have this problem, only when I really open up that throttle.

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#2 | RE: Random Stall? datum

Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:46 pm

Zitat von Dylan im Beitrag #1
I have not had this problem for a long time, but I thought I might as well bring it up, after I bought my RS, I was riding it around town, and the engine randomly stalled out on me, and if I remember correctly it was in second gear both times this happened. I know it was not me who stalled it because the clutch was in both times. The bike had all maintenance done, and was not reporting any problems, the bike was broken in but had less than 1,000 miles (1609.34 km)

The first time it happened, I was in the middle of a turn, second gear with clutch in, and the bike randomly stalled.
Second time, I was coming up to a red light, clutch in and downshifting, bike randomly stalled (didn't notice until I was stopped)

I captured them both on video, I don't have my SIM card on me, but if you want to see the videos I can share them, if the forum allows me to post videos. (I am still learning about the forum)
I brought the bike into the closest BMW Motorrad dealer near me, and they said that they have never seen or heard of the problem, and they put over 100 miles on my bike trying to replicate the problem with no luck, I have not had the problem since then, but I would still like to understand what happened.

Also on a side note, does anyone have a problem shifting into third gear when you are trying to accelerate fast? When I turn onto a freeway (motorway) and I am trying to get up to speed quickly, I sometimes have trouble shifting into third gear, I can pull up on that lever really hard, and it feels like there is a stopper and I end up redlining the bike really badly and I have to slow down in order for the bike to allow me to shift up. Again, I don't always have this problem, only when I really open up that throttle.

We have had some reports from US riders about the bike stalling - can't remember if it was crappy "summer" or "winter" fuel but they key is to try different brands and maybe try one of these super duper fuels like Shell VPower or whatever such snake oil is called in your area.

With the gear change, is this using the clutch or quickshifter? I have a quickshift equipped bike but tend to use the clutch from 1-2 and 2-3 as it is jerky on every boxer bike I have ridden (R1200GS, R1250GS and another R1200RS).

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#3 | RE: Random Stall? datum

Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:38 pm

Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #2
Zitat von Dylan im Beitrag #1
I have not had this problem for a long time, but I thought I might as well bring it up, after I bought my RS, I was riding it around town, and the engine randomly stalled out on me, and if I remember correctly it was in second gear both times this happened. I know it was not me who stalled it because the clutch was in both times. The bike had all maintenance done, and was not reporting any problems, the bike was broken in but had less than 1,000 miles (1609.34 km)

The first time it happened, I was in the middle of a turn, second gear with clutch in, and the bike randomly stalled.
Second time, I was coming up to a red light, clutch in and downshifting, bike randomly stalled (didn't notice until I was stopped)

I captured them both on video, I don't have my SIM card on me, but if you want to see the videos I can share them, if the forum allows me to post videos. (I am still learning about the forum)
I brought the bike into the closest BMW Motorrad dealer near me, and they said that they have never seen or heard of the problem, and they put over 100 miles on my bike trying to replicate the problem with no luck, I have not had the problem since then, but I would still like to understand what happened.

Also on a side note, does anyone have a problem shifting into third gear when you are trying to accelerate fast? When I turn onto a freeway (motorway) and I am trying to get up to speed quickly, I sometimes have trouble shifting into third gear, I can pull up on that lever really hard, and it feels like there is a stopper and I end up redlining the bike really badly and I have to slow down in order for the bike to allow me to shift up. Again, I don't always have this problem, only when I really open up that throttle.

We have had some reports from US riders about the bike stalling - can't remember if it was crappy "summer" or "winter" fuel but they key is to try different brands and maybe try one of these super duper fuels like Shell VPower or whatever such snake oil is called in your area.

With the gear change, is this using the clutch or quickshifter? I have a quickshift equipped bike but tend to use the clutch from 1-2 and 2-3 as it is jerky on every boxer bike I have ridden (R1200GS, R1250GS and another R1200RS).

I probably put the wrong gas in the bike and didn't realize it then, I am kind of glad to hear that I am not the only one that had that problem.
I have the quick shift installed as well, but I have been doing the exact same thing you do when it comes to shifting. I use the clutch for gears 1-2 and 2-3 because the quick shift is too rough through those gears. It just got brought to my attention from a GS owner that he has some difficulty shifting up when you don't bring your foot completely off the gear shift lever, even when there is just the slightest bit of pressure on the lever, it can prevent you from shifting up.

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#4 | RE: Random Stall? datum

Thu Aug 01, 2019 11:50 pm

A few years ago some F800 owners were reporting random stalling, which was apparently fixed with a firmware download.

Current motorcycle collection: 2002 Yamaha FZ1; 2005 Triumph Bonneville T-100; 2011 Royal Enfield Bullet 500; 2009 BMW F650GS; 2016 BMW R1200RS; 2018 Zero S 16.6 kWh

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#5 | RE: Random Stall? datum

Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:49 am

Zitat von Dylan im Beitrag #3
Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #2
Zitat von Dylan im Beitrag #1
I have not had this problem for a long time, but I thought I might as well bring it up, after I bought my RS, I was riding it around town, and the engine randomly stalled out on me, and if I remember correctly it was in second gear both times this happened. I know it was not me who stalled it because the clutch was in both times. The bike had all maintenance done, and was not reporting any problems, the bike was broken in but had less than 1,000 miles (1609.34 km)

The first time it happened, I was in the middle of a turn, second gear with clutch in, and the bike randomly stalled.
Second time, I was coming up to a red light, clutch in and downshifting, bike randomly stalled (didn't notice until I was stopped)

I captured them both on video, I don't have my SIM card on me, but if you want to see the videos I can share them, if the forum allows me to post videos. (I am still learning about the forum)
I brought the bike into the closest BMW Motorrad dealer near me, and they said that they have never seen or heard of the problem, and they put over 100 miles on my bike trying to replicate the problem with no luck, I have not had the problem since then, but I would still like to understand what happened.

Also on a side note, does anyone have a problem shifting into third gear when you are trying to accelerate fast? When I turn onto a freeway (motorway) and I am trying to get up to speed quickly, I sometimes have trouble shifting into third gear, I can pull up on that lever really hard, and it feels like there is a stopper and I end up redlining the bike really badly and I have to slow down in order for the bike to allow me to shift up. Again, I don't always have this problem, only when I really open up that throttle.

We have had some reports from US riders about the bike stalling - can't remember if it was crappy "summer" or "winter" fuel but they key is to try different brands and maybe try one of these super duper fuels like Shell VPower or whatever such snake oil is called in your area.

With the gear change, is this using the clutch or quickshifter? I have a quickshift equipped bike but tend to use the clutch from 1-2 and 2-3 as it is jerky on every boxer bike I have ridden (R1200GS, R1250GS and another R1200RS).

I probably put the wrong gas in the bike and didn't realize it then, I am kind of glad to hear that I am not the only one that had that problem.
I have the quick shift installed as well, but I have been doing the exact same thing you do when it comes to shifting. I use the clutch for gears 1-2 and 2-3 because the quick shift is too rough through those gears. It just got brought to my attention from a GS owner that he has some difficulty shifting up when you don't bring your foot completely off the gear shift lever, even when there is just the slightest bit of pressure on the lever, it can prevent you from shifting up.

Hello,

After checking with some fellow riders and my reseller, I am only using the clutch when riding in town, where you have to be carefull with your speed and acceleration (apparently some bystanders ignore the meaning of crossroads and I don't know how the cyclists are in your location, but let's say that in France, the correct term is suicidal). But as soon as I get in the countryside, mountains or even highway, I go from 1 to 6 and 6 to 1 with the quickshifter. Provided you apply the correct charge and shift up (or down, with throttle to 0 and a subtle brake application), it will comply without the slightest kickback.... needless to say that I manage to realise those perfect scores 1 out of 7 to 10 times, but I feel pretty proud every time.... any other time, I either frown to myself or get a blow to the helmet by the missus.... but hey... you gotta do what you gotta do.....

I shall reckon that the BMW quickshifter was way better on my friends K1300R and K1600GT, but I think (as I am not an expert) it's due to the 4 cylinder engines being more compliant with the concept of quickshifting.... again, it's just a feeling....

This being said, Ride safe y'all !!!

Romain

Ain't no thing like me, except me!

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#6 | RE: Random Stall? datum

Fri Aug 02, 2019 4:32 pm

Zitat von Dylan im Beitrag #3
It just got brought to my attention from a GS owner that he has some difficulty shifting up when you don't bring your foot completely off the gear shift lever, even when there is just the slightest bit of pressure on the lever, it can prevent you from shifting up.

Dylan

I 'd say pretty much any gear selection issue I have had whilst riding my RS I can attribute to me not allowing the gear lever to return to it's 'home' position before trying to go for another gear (i.e. leave some pressure on the lever). It happens shifting up or down (but more often on the up), and with or without using the quick-shifter, and it's usually when I'm making progress and going for another gear soon after the last. I'm getting better, doing it less often, now I've realised what I'm doing wrong. :-)

Jason.

Jason.

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