R1200RS + R1250RS Forum
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Sun Jul 28, 2019 1:08 am (Last edited: Sun Jul 28, 2019 1:09 am)
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I think you want Apps - Trip Planner - New Trip but it's a faff to put them in on the device, even if you only have a few. I think you can also edit an existing route with much faffery. Never bothered myself, always use Basecamp.
Bridgestone 175 Hurricane Scrambler - Royal Enfield 250 Crusader - Norton Atlas 750 (two, first one stolen) - 25 years - F800ST - F800GT - R1200RS - R1250RT
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Zitat von Yoda im Beitrag #2 I prefer to use my Garmin's Trip planner and either a real map or google maps to find waypoints as these are the root source of my touring data. I've tried Basecamp and other mapping tools but end up with them dicking about with the route in a sub-optimal way. I tend to plot a route for a single day, some are planned way in advance e.g. transferring between hotels and some on the fly as my mood and local weather dictate. I don't have a Windows device on tour, so Basecamp is not an option. Third party GPX routes can be saved directly to the SD card and then imported from there into the Garmin. The key to setting Waypoints on the device is to zoom in to ensure you are selecting an accurate waypoint, not just a village name or road number as this might by a few km off your intended route. The other bit of advice is to put the "skip waypoint" icon on your screen as a custom button so if you find the waypoint is just off the route (on the other side of motorway or river is typical) then you can press skip and go to the next waypoint. This is under "Settings>>map & vehicle>>map buttons" - only the red X for stop route is selected by default |
Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #3 The problem with that (at least it is for me) is that I don't realise that the waypoint is off the route until I find myself e.g. heading the wrong way up a motorway. Zooming in and finding places on the device is so slow and unresponsive it drives me mad - or I guess that's just me as well. I just find it easier to pre-plan the route on a nice big screen - and then follow every inch of it at high zoom just to make sure that any weird "detours" or "motorway loops" don't exist (bitter experience has taught me that!). I do carry a laptop though, in case modifications are required.... Sometimes the device behaves very oddly despite the best laid plans - last year in France I was trundling along a main road when it suddenly told me to turn right at a crossroads - I knew that was the wrong way so I ignored it. 100 metres further on it insisted I did a U-turn. I thought "maybe this is a traffic problem detour" (I have Garmin link on) so I dutifully did the U-turn and started back up the road, whereupon it told me to turn right - i.e. the completely opposite direction to its previous instruction. Being stupid I followed the instruction - twenty or so miles later through nice country backroads I was back on the main road that I had originally left...…. A week later on the return trip as I approached the same crossroads it said "turn left" - i.e. the original right turn! I had plenty of time so I thought "why not see what's there?" - well it turned out to be a tour around the outside of a nuclear power station, ending back on the original main road a few miles further on.... Bridgestone 175 Hurricane Scrambler - Royal Enfield 250 Crusader - Norton Atlas 750 (two, first one stolen) - 25 years - F800ST - F800GT - R1200RS - R1250RT |
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Zitat von Yoda im Beitrag #4Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #3 one of the reasons I use a real map for planning is that I then get an overall idea of the route in my head - the usenet group uk.rec.motorcycles refer to me as WPS, wessie positioning system, as I am often asked for routing advice. I seem to have a pretty good memory for cartography and only use the satnav as an aid to navigation, not something to follow diligently. I sometimes deviate down a parallel road if I sense it is more attractive than the route originally selected e.g. boring scenery, traffic, amusing village name on a sign or a signed attraction. For this reason, the satnav is a visual aid only. I don't have an audio link to my helmet. Oh, and I use a Garmin Zumo 390 not a bespoke BMW device. Perhaps this is easier to use... |
Zitat von L2RKE im Beitrag #5 many people dislike basecamp with a vengeance and I can understand it as it is not as user friendly as some others but I am persevering with it. One piece of advise other than the great one from Wessie about skip icon is when using waypoints on basecamp zoom in to the max so you can be sure it is on the correct side of the road on dual carriageways or even the correct road when many close together. good luck and when you become an expert come and teach me Graham jusy reread Wessie's [ost and he also said max the zoom!!!! Graham |
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Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #3 That's the 2 buttons I keep on my screen, skip waypoint and stop route.
Lee
2016 R1200RS Iowa, USA |
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Yoda, I was so glad to read your post as I thought it might be me having a problem with the device. I was also in France with another guy who also had a Garmn V and even if we set the same route and carefully checked that the settings were the same on both devices we had different directions supplied to us and some of the differences were crazy. It possible that we were both doing something very wrong with the devces but as things stand I'm not even a little bit impressed with the Garmin. |
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Zitat von SteveTea im Beitrag #10 A couple of things may apply here: Are you sure the Nav 5 was in motorcycle mode not car mode? Your Nav 6 is in motorcycle mode by default which excludes major main roads by default, and you also may be in curvy road mode while the V may not have that option (added via firmware update at some point, curvy mode excludes road types by default even if not selected in avoidances). The built in device maps must be identical versions, lest the routing be different as well and all avoidances, traffic settings, must be identical too. Honestly getting two GPS's to match on routing is pretty hard to do because there are like 8-12 variables that can be setup different between the two, some obvious, and some not. Learning a Garmin is part art and part luck if you are trying to massage a route into something you desire (as is adding a basecamp route to a device). Most people use it as a point and shoot device, taking whatever is handed to them. Some like me analyze the parameters of the route in advance and massage the given route to fit the desired ride (via Basecamp too). However getting two disparate devices to follow the same path does take some advanced knowledge of the settings, their influence on the outcome, and some knowledge of the same for other lesser parameters. Its all about the algos. And the algos are different between Garmin device generations, so one has to work around the details if one simply does not want to use their GPS like an instant camera (point and shoot). |
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I have been using Garmin GPS’s since they had Street pilot III. I now have a Nav VI. You used to be able to create a route in Mapsource or Basecamp and send it to your unit and also email it and share it with others. Now you can have the same maps, the same model of GPS and the same settings, but if you try to do a complex route it won’t be the same. It never did that before. We have just returned from doing nearly 3000 in Europe and quite frequently it would have us going different ways, and there was no logic to it. |
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I'm going on a trip soon, and looking to test out GG's suggestion of using Furkot (have to watch how I spell that). The first time I used my NAV VI, I plotted start-finish on the unit itself. The route was not complicated to my way of thinking with only 3 transitions to different roads over a few hundred miles. The start-finish was correct so I took off, trusting the unit to make the proper transitions and take the logical route. What I got was Angry Betty (my garmin GPS voice) bitching at me to do a number of really bizarre turnarounds and deviations, sometimes when I was on the only road for miles. I always do pro-active planning from now on. |
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What you consider to be the "logical route" with a brain the size of a planet is probably confusing to a poor little Garmin brain which you may have told to "avoid XYZ", take "shortest/fastest/curvy/whatever" route etc etc.
Bridgestone 175 Hurricane Scrambler - Royal Enfield 250 Crusader - Norton Atlas 750 (two, first one stolen) - 25 years - F800ST - F800GT - R1200RS - R1250RT
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Really appreciate the Hitchhiker's Guide reference to "brain the size of a planet," but methinks it's the other way 'round. I'm still waiting for the Garmin feature that gives me local boy directions. "So ya go down to the gas station, turn left, and then when you reach Tyler's barn that got burnt down 3 years ago, turn right, and then right again after the cattle crossing." |
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