RE: Test ride reviews - 7

Zitat von GvG im Beitrag #90

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So you are saying the quickshifter on your R1200RS works better than the R1250RS you took for a testdrive?

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I was discussing this with a customer on Saturday who has an XR and I am really starting to warm to them, the gearbox on his bike is exactly how they should be as opposed to the agricultural attempt on the boxer

I read somewhere that the nature of a boxer, or any twin, will always make a QS less smooth than on a four banger.

So after I bent my rim on my new RS, the dealership owner came by to pick it up and he said he had taken an RS to the track and he was really impressed with how well it performed there.

Prior to the LC motors, input shaft speeds on the flat twins were the same as motor rpm.

With the LC motor there is a primary drive which (I think) steps down the input shaft rpms and made the gearbox more conventional and less clunky at the cost of losing the clean disengagement of the dry clutch.

I guess the other factor that may affect perceived smoothness is the shaft drive. It has no slack compared to a chain and cush drive..

Personally I think the RS's gearbox to be perfectly acceptable, and far smoother than my 2009 Spyder RS.

I miss the clean disengagement of the earlier dry clutch, but I think the wet clutch is more durable and obviously easier to change.

I also believe the clutch revolves opposite to the crank if the primary drive is geared, and that would reduce torque reaction on slipping the throttle at standstill.

"With the LC motor there is a primary drive which (I think) steps down the input shaft rpms and made the gearbox more conventional and less clunky at the cost of losing the clean disengagement of the dry clutch."
The speed of the input shaft, added to the shaft drive hardware makes the most sense. It's certainly not just because it's a twin. The quickshifter on the new Ducati Supersport I rode was butter smooth shifting up or down.

After almost 50k km on my 1200 RS ('17 model with all options), today I finally got to ride the 1250 RS.

The demo of course doesn't have my mods on it (Akra can, bar risers, lowered pegs, bigger screen and Wunderlich high seat), but still got a good impression of the 1250 today. In a nutshell, it is good but not really superior to the 1200. The TFT dash is nice, the increased torque feels good, and the gearbox is a bit better still although still not as good a the 4 and 6 cylinder models. After the new RS I also rode a '15 K1600GT (6 cylinder) with around 50k km on the clocks, and that was more impressive I must admit.

So would I trade in my '17 RS for a '20 RS? I think not. If the RS goes, it would be for a '17 or newer K1600 now, which is supposed to be even better than the '15 model I rode.

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Here's a fresh review from the Missenden Flyer. https://youtu.be/7muDoKkWvaw

Good afternoon everyone. the Missenden Flyer has just posted an in depth review of the 1250 RS which I found very useful

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpjfz9KUpnc&t=532s

That bloke requires subtitles or a better microphone. Can't understand a word he's saying.

Maybe you need better ears? Sounds perfectly clear to me.

Surprised he didn't mention that different seat heights are available when talking about taller riders. Remiss of him.

Zitat von TenCats im Beitrag #100

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That bloke requires subtitles or a better microphone. Can't understand a word he's saying.

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Zitat von littleade im Beitrag #99

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Good afternoon everyone. the Missenden Flyer has just posted an in depth review of the 1250 RS which I found very useful

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpjfz9KUpnc&t=532s

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Zitat von Yoda im Beitrag #101

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Maybe you need better ears? Sounds perfectly clear to me.

Surprised he didn't mention that different seat heights are available when talking about taller riders. Remiss of him.

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Brought home a 2020 R1250RS (Austin Yellow) on Saturday. It's one of the most impressive BMWs I've ridden.

-Steering is not as fast as the R1250R, but with forks, good geometry and a 17" front wheel, it's quicker than, say, a GS.
-Performance: The engine is torquey and powerful. Plenty of juice for a boxer. It's no Ducati or KTM, but at no more than 5k it's not bad. I'm looking forward to completing the break-in to see what it'll really do.
-Transmission is smooth and the gearing is significantly higher than other models, making it easy to tour on.
-I love the cant-forward riding position. Being in the Yoda position lends itself to active/aggressive riding and good cornering technique. This seems to be what the RS was designed for.
-The bike seems very stable at speed.
-Wind protection is OK, but it's a sport-tourer so it's just what I expected. The additional wind protection over the R (which is a fabulous bike) is a nice plus.
-Great seat. I have the regular height seat (32.3"), so it's not a tall bike.
-Ergonomics are great for me. At 6'1" my knees are well bent, but I haven't yet noticed any discomfort from the riding position. Leaning forward keeps a lot of weight off your rear-end. The seat is flat and good-sized (for a sport-tourer). Quite comfortable, so far.
-The electronics are first class. I've been riding in Dynamic / Road, which is just right for me, unless you really want to ride aggressively. From suspension and braking to the display, all so far have left me with a good impression.

I've had a number of other bikes. Loved the FJR1300. Still have a '14 GS and '18 XR, which are fantastic machines. The initial impression of the RS is equally as good. It's more performance oriented than an RT; a little more minimalistic. For me, I'd say it's a sleeper. I'm amazed that Motorrad hasn't sold more of this model.

The 2020 RS has great potential, especially for those who don't want a tall bike and/or don't plan on going off-road with a GS/GSA. YMMV, but for me, this is going to be a lot of fun.