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I just heard on the radio news that a San Francisco state legislator has introduced a bill (proposed law) that if approved would require all cars sold in California after 2027 to have a system that would prevent the vehicle from exceeding the posted speed limit on the road that it was traveling. This should make for an interesting discussion in the state legislature.
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I have ridden all across Europe using a Garmin or Audi satnav. These are supposed to know the local speed limit and display a warning if you are going over it. They are hopelessly out of date due to constant tinkering by legislators at various levels from national government to parish council. Germany is the worst where the speed limit can change 8 times in less than a mile as you go through a small village, ranging from 100kph on the open road to 30 kph past a school, dropping in small increments before rising slowly back to 100kph as you go back to the open road.
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Wed Jan 24, 2024 5:49 pm (Last edited: Wed Jan 24, 2024 5:50 pm)
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And how, I wonder, would such a car be able to pass another car, if both were doing the "legal" speed limit? And how about emergencies, such as an ill or dying passenger who needs to get to a hospital RIGHT NOW(!)? |
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I forgot to mention that the law would restrict new vehicles from exceeding the speed limit by 10 mph. If you tried to do that, the car wouldn't let you and either cut engine power or apply the brakes to keep your speed under the 10 mph limit.
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Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #3 You're not an ambulance and you don't have any authority or legal protection to do so. Call 911 and get someone authorized to do the emergency transport and provide life-support, if necessary.
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Zitat von Mr. 36654 im Beitrag #5Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #3 Sometimes that emergency support is too far away or unavailable. |
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I see your in PA . Our Friend David Died in PA 2 years ago of a heart attack in rural PA . Mark and David's phones had No cell service so guess who was driving him to a point of rescue that ended unsuccessfully . Not a perfect world , and never will be . |
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Thu Jan 25, 2024 9:39 am (Last edited: Thu Jan 25, 2024 9:44 am)
Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #6Zitat von Mr. 36654 im Beitrag #5Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #3 That doesn't mean you can speed or violate any other traffic sign or signal while making that transport.
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Zitat von c10 im Beitrag #7 Speeding traffic citations place the offers at risk both in terms of standing along the highway and being shot by armed unhappy drivers. In addition, they're a potential financial drain on whatever gov't agency employs the officers. Typically, unionized LEOs are given a minimum of 2hrs OT to appear in traffic court. If court runs long, due to any delay, the officer gets more OT. It's not uncommon for an officer in his last 3-yrs before retirement to write a lot more tickets. The OT is included in his average wage calculation for determining his pension. Speeding needs to be controlled for public and our own safety. After alcohol, speeding is likely the second major factor in MC fatalities. Automatic ticketing, using cameras or radar, is the practical means of achieving that goal.
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Zitat von Becksy im Beitrag #8 Do they still have the variable speed limits on the motorways around London?
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Zitat von Mr. 36654 im Beitrag #9Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #6Zitat von Mr. 36654 im Beitrag #5Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #3 We'll have to "agree to disagree" on this. I COULD, and I WOULD, violate any traffic law that interferes with me, as driver, getting a passenger in desperate straits to safety. And I suspect any LE agent who saw me doing so, while they may briefly stop me, would act as a high-speed escort to that safety. This trend of ever-more restrictive interference in the lives of people is going to end in some form of disaster for everyone. |
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Zitat von Mr. 36654 im Beitrag #11Zitat von Becksy im Beitrag #8 they are all over the UK now. I have one half a mile away since the 20mph urban speed limit was introduced in Wales. The limit is the default on roads with street lights where it was previously 30mph. Local authorities have the discretion to change the limit back to 30 if they feel it is appropriate. There is a high school and primary school on the edge of our small town. Most of the day, the limit on this road leading from the bypass is 30mph but there are matrix signs that lower the limit to 20mph at the start and end of the school day. A pragmatic approach. Mostly, the variable limits are on motorways with more being implemented where there is congestion. The lowered speed limits work to improve flow and reducing accidents. The "smart" use of the emergency lane (hard shoulder in UK speak) during peak times is less successful with some accidents where cars have stopped when the lane is active or a truck driver has not noticed the red X has been turned on. The red X indicates the lane has resumed being a hard shoulder.
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Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #12Zitat von Mr. 36654 im Beitrag #9Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #6Zitat von Mr. 36654 im Beitrag #5Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #3 No, neither the LEO or his employer is going to assume responsibility for your driving.
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Zitat von Mr. 36654 im Beitrag #14Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #12Zitat von Mr. 36654 im Beitrag #9Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #6Zitat von Mr. 36654 im Beitrag #5Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #3 Wouldn't ask him/her to do so. That's beside the point. Anyway...I think this originally was about the "powers that be" somehow physically restricting auto/vehicle speeds. Can't see that happening. But who knows, with "AI" anything could happen...lol! |
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