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#1 | Random holiday stuff datum

Mon Dec 11, 2023 3:51 pm

Here is an interesting BBC article regarding the history of hot chocolate as a winter drink in England: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-67405059

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#2 | RE: Random holiday stuff datum

Mon Dec 11, 2023 4:26 pm

cocoa with a louche young sailor sounds appealing

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#3 | RE: Random holiday stuff datum

Mon Dec 11, 2023 5:54 pm

From the BBC Hot Chocolate story....
"Take six pounds of cocoa-nuts, one pound of anise-seeds, four ounces of long pepper, one of cinnamon, a quarter of a pound of almonds, one pound of pistachios, as much achiote (a spice extracted from the seeds of an evergreen shrub) as will make it the colour of brick, three grains of musk and as much ambergrease (alternative spelling of ambergris, a waxy substance formed in the digestive system of a sperm whale), six pounds of loaf sugar, one ounce of nutmegs."

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#4 | RE: Random holiday stuff datum

Mon Dec 11, 2023 6:22 pm

An historical novel, centered on the origins of chocolate in Britain:

https://www.amazon.com/Chocolate-Makers-...l/dp/0062686593

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#5 | RE: Random holiday stuff datum

Mon Dec 11, 2023 6:23 pm

Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #2
cocoa with a louche young sailor sounds appealing

He looks wasted. Methinks there's another "substance" in his cocoa.

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#6 | RE: Random holiday stuff datum

Mon Dec 11, 2023 7:59 pm

Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #5
Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #2
cocoa with a louche young sailor sounds appealing

He looks wasted. Methinks there's another "substance" in his cocoa.

Based on three / four generations of German kings, some of which were "whack-a-doodle", the Victorians had a firm foundation in strange.

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#7 | RE: Random holiday stuff datum

Mon Dec 11, 2023 8:19 pm

It's all that ambergris they ate. Luckily these days we have palm oil

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#8 | RE: Random holiday stuff datum

Mon Dec 11, 2023 8:35 pm

Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #5
Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #2
cocoa with a louche young sailor sounds appealing

He looks wasted. Methinks there's another "substance" in his cocoa.

laudanum was a staple in Georgian, Victorian and Edwardian Britain. It was only fully regulated in 1920 when the cure-all quack tinctures laced with it were banned unless prescribed by a medic. These over the counter medicines were cheaper than the gin the poor were addicted to in the 17th and early 18th centuries thanks to the British forcing people in India to grow opium which made loads of cash for the East Indies Company.

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#9 | RE: Random holiday stuff datum

Mon Dec 11, 2023 9:33 pm (Last edited: Mon Dec 11, 2023 9:34 pm)

Laudenum...oh, how many historic novels set in England had husbands dosing their rich wives, then sending them to asylums from which they never returned. Well, not just in novels...it really happened.

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#10 | RE: Random holiday stuff datum

Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:29 pm

Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #9
Laudenum...oh, how many historic novels set in England had husbands dosing their rich wives, then sending them to asylums from which they never returned. Well, not just in novels...it really happened.

IIRC, several episodes of Bonanza, Gunsmoke and the Big Valley featured a laudenum problem.

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#11 | RE: Random holiday stuff datum

Tue Dec 12, 2023 2:28 am

Zitat von Mr. 36654 im Beitrag #10
Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #9
Laudenum...oh, how many historic novels set in England had husbands dosing their rich wives, then sending them to asylums from which they never returned. Well, not just in novels...it really happened.

IIRC, several episodes of Bonanza, Gunsmoke and the Big Valley featured a laudenum problem.

And I think Wyatt Earp's wife had a laudenum issue.

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#12 | RE: Random holiday stuff datum

Tue Dec 12, 2023 2:45 am

Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #11
Zitat von Mr. 36654 im Beitrag #10
Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #9
Laudenum...oh, how many historic novels set in England had husbands dosing their rich wives, then sending them to asylums from which they never returned. Well, not just in novels...it really happened.

IIRC, several episodes of Bonanza, Gunsmoke and the Big Valley featured a laudenum problem.

And I think Wyatt Earp's wife had a laudenum issue.

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