RE: R1200rs esa suspension - 2

Thanks all!

I really enjoy the bike and appreciate all of your input.

Im a pretty knowledgable rider and would find it hard to believe the the factory would send out a production bike with the settings for damping way too soft on road and way to stiff on dynamic.

I am convinced that there may be a factory fix, but doubtful that the dealer base knows what that is.

There is a new software update, which I will get.

The dealer is unsure if it will do anything for this issue,but may improve the quickshift.

If I can get it close, I'll be happy, but its really a handful on bumpy roads now.

I wish that somone would develop an app or way to mod the standard settings, it cant be too dificult to do.

Cheers

So, interstingly, as I would expect, preload does effect damping.

Preload set at one rider, on road, virtually no damping
One rider and bags, some damping
Two riders, damping is actually pretty good.

So, Ill have my pre load recalibrated by the dealer.

Even the dealer tells me that preload dosent effect damping, but logically, it should.

More weight, more preload and more damping.

Zitat von Farrboat im Beitrag #17

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So, interstingly, as I would expect, preload does effect damping.

Preload set at one rider, on road, virtually no damping
One rider and bags, some damping
Two riders, damping is actually pretty good.

So, Ill have my pre load recalibrated by the dealer.

Even the dealer tells me that preload dosent effect damping, but logically, it should.

More weight, more preload and more damping.

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Zitat von Sanemancured im Beitrag #18

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Zitat von Farrboat im Beitrag #17

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So, interstingly, as I would expect, preload does effect damping.

Preload set at one rider, on road, virtually no damping
One rider and bags, some damping
Two riders, damping is actually pretty good.

So, Ill have my pre load recalibrated by the dealer.

Even the dealer tells me that preload dosent effect damping, but logically, it should.

More weight, more preload and more damping.

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Preload won't affect damping per se but it will affect the manner in which the bike behaves on the road. If that makes sense.

I strongly suspect that the 2 damping settings are built in mechanically and hydraulically and that software alone won't change this.

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Zitat von Farrboat im Beitrag #17

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So, interstingly, as I would expect, preload does effect damping.

Preload set at one rider, on road, virtually no damping
One rider and bags, some damping
Two riders, damping is actually pretty good.

So, Ill have my pre load recalibrated by the dealer.

Even the dealer tells me that preload dosent effect damping, but logically, it should.

More weight, more preload and more damping.

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I wish I'd searched and found this thread a while ago. I was wondering, leaving work, how the bike would ride with ESA set to 1 rider and bags. I always have all three bags mounted and typically have my gym bag in one panier and a lunch bag in the other. I've always riden with it set to 1 rider and dynamic. I'm 185 lbs. so I consider myself to be average. Before leaving work, I set the preload to 1 rider with bags. Damping I left on dynamic. The ride felt more controlled, although not the smooth ride I'm used to. I know I have to play with it and see what works for me. I did have a question. While switching to rider plus bags I could feel the back end rising. Does the ESA also alter preload on the forks? It felt that way to me but it may also be altering damping apart from the damping setings. Just curious if anyone knows about that or can back up the seat of the pants feelings I had. Should have played with this long ago in my four years of ownership but I'm much more used to manually setting preload and damping, taking the same run on the same day, adjust, tweak, repeat. Someone said we get course adjustments compaired to manual adjustments. I would tend to agree. I welcome any thoughts or feedback.

I don't want to hijack this thread but it seems to be the right topic...

I have a 2018 R1200RS and normally ride road/one helmet (FWIW 78kg / 172 lb)
When I change preload from one helmet to two helmets, should I be able to see and change in the height of the bike as it adjusts?

I have felt mine adjust when sitting at a junction fiddling with settings. I had recently fitted a taller seat and was adjusting preload up when the bike started to rise😯

Yes you should feel a difference, I can definitely feel mine rising when I adjust it to two helmets.

Zitat von baxb im Beitrag #24

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Yes you should feel a difference, I can definitely feel mine rising when I adjust it to two helmets.

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On my 2015, the move from one one helmet to two is quite subtle. The next one up not so.

(On general principal, I try not to sit on the bike during adjustments....)

I'm usually on the bike ('16 RS), but unloaded, in a standing position when changing preload settings. You can certainly feel the rear of the bike "rise to the occasion". In 2 helmet mode I will often feel the preload cycling, after restarting the bike. Diagnostic cycle?

On my 2016 RS, built in April 2015, I can't feel anything when switching from one rider to one rider plus luggage, unlike the ESA of my 2007 R1200R, which noticeably increased the rear spring preload during each adjustment. My only guess why there is no preload increase is that the system is adjusting the compression and rebound of the rear shock to accommodate a heavier load. However, selecting two riders plus luggage causes the bike to rise significantly.