RE: Ethanol fuel - 2

Just my own observation- Since I have been using non-ethanol in all my bikes the double tap starting on my '17 RS has not happened.

Frank

Zitat von Lee im Beitrag #4

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I believe the increased production of field corn because of ethanol has not caused more soil erosion, water pollution and air pollution.

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Zitat von Duckbubbles im Beitrag #16

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Just my own observation- Since I have been using non-ethanol in all my bikes the double tap starting on my '17 RS has not happened.

Frank

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Zitat von Richard230 im Beitrag #19

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Zitat von Duckbubbles im Beitrag #16

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Just my own observation- Since I have been using non-ethanol in all my bikes the double tap starting on my '17 RS has not happened.

Frank

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As soon as California started refining and selling the "summer blend" of 10% ethanol-laced gasoline last month, the double-tap morning starts started up again, after a winter of single-tap starts. Oddly, it only happens with my 2016 RS and not with any of my other motorcycles, such as my fuel-injected (sort of) Royal Enfield, my F650GS, or my carbureted Yamaha FZ1, all of which start up quickly on the smog gas.

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Zitat von Lee im Beitrag #20

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Zitat von Richard230 im Beitrag #19

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Zitat von Duckbubbles im Beitrag #16

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Just my own observation- Since I have been using non-ethanol in all my bikes the double tap starting on my '17 RS has not happened.

Frank

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As soon as California started refining and selling the "summer blend" of 10% ethanol-laced gasoline last month, the double-tap morning starts started up again, after a winter of single-tap starts. Oddly, it only happens with my 2016 RS and not with any of my other motorcycles, such as my fuel-injected (sort of) Royal Enfield, my F650GS, or my carbureted Yamaha FZ1, all of which start up quickly on the smog gas.

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I wonder if BMW finally figured out a fix for the double tap when the RS was upgraded to the 1250.
Debbie's 1200 would do the double tap off and on and my bike did it a few times.
On our Texas Arkansas trip this spring neither one of our 1250s did the double tap.
I'll know more after a few summer trips.

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Now here is an interesting bio-fuel development. A long article in my newspaper today, written by Shomik Mukherjee and published by bayareanewsgroup,com, titled: "Suits challenge 2 oil refineries' switch to biofuels' states that two environment groups are suing two large oil refineries in the SF Bay Area. Marathon Petroleum and Phillips 66 plan to overhaul their existing oil refineries to produce fuel processed from vegetable oils and animal fats, rather than petroleum. The Marathon refinery at one time produced as much as 18% of California's gasoline supplies. They plan to churn out tens of thousands of barrels of vegetable oils and animal fats each day into fuel for commercial trucks and heavy-duty vehicles.

Interestingly, the environmental groups are suing to stop the refineries from converting to processing bio-fuels. Their law suits claim that large-scale processing of biofuels would require massive amounts of food crops, "which in turn require significant land dedicated to agriculture, fertilizer, pesticides, and other energy intensive resources". They claim that this impact was not addressed in the environmental impact report for the projects approved by the Contra Costa County Board of Supervisors and approval of the projects should be overthrown by the courts.

Zitat von Richard230 im Beitrag #23

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Now here is an interesting bio-fuel development. A long article in my newspaper today, written by Shomik Mukherjee and published by bayareanewsgroup,com, titled: "Suits challenge 2 oil refineries' switch to biofuels' states that two environment groups are suing two large oil refineries in the SF Bay Area. Marathon Petroleum and Phillips 66 plan to overhaul their existing oil refineries to produce fuel processed from vegetable oils and animal fats, rather than petroleum. The Marathon refinery at one time produced as much as 18% of California's gasoline supplies. They plan to churn out tens of thousands of barrels of vegetable oils and animal fats each day into fuel for commercial trucks and heavy-duty vehicles.

Interestingly, the environmental groups are suing to stop the refineries from converting to processing bio-fuels. Their law suits claim that large-scale processing of biofuels would require massive amounts of food crops, "which in turn require significant land dedicated to agriculture, fertilizer, pesticides, and other energy intensive resources". They claim that this impact was not addressed in the environmental impact report for the projects approved by the Contra Costa County Board of Supervisors and approval of the projects should be overthrown by the courts.

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Zitat von Richard230 im Beitrag #19

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Zitat von Duckbubbles im Beitrag #16

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Just my own observation- Since I have been using non-ethanol in all my bikes the double tap starting on my '17 RS has not happened.

Frank

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As soon as California started refining and selling the "summer blend" of 10% ethanol-laced gasoline last month, the double-tap morning starts started up again, after a winter of single-tap starts. Oddly, it only happens with my 2016 RS and not with any of my other motorcycles, such as my fuel-injected (sort of) Royal Enfield, my F650GS, or my carbureted Yamaha FZ1, all of which start up quickly on the smog gas.

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Zitat von Duckbubbles im Beitrag #25

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As an experiment on my original RS, upon no start immediately, I held the starter button down for roughly 5-7 seconds and it just spun over, no hint of a start. I released the button and hit it again- immediate start. Confounds me.
On to my '17 RS. The double tap starting happened just once in a while with no discernable way for me to predict. Like I said, since using non-ethanol for almost a year now, it hasn't happened. But jeez, it's getting expensive! But that's a subject for another thread!

Frank

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Zitat von Ray B im Beitrag #26

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As long as the bike consistently starts on the second push of the button, not clear whether this is a problem.

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