RE: 1250 seat lack of comfort - 2

I recommend the Russel Day Long seat. You have to ship your seat to California, USA for them to remake, but it's custom to your specs and, imo, fairly amazing.

I will second the Russell seat for comfort, but not in the looks department.
I also have, and used, a tall Wunderlich seat and although it is better than my stock height seat was, it’s still painful after 2-3 hours. The Russell seat is great, same height as my stocker, if you can get past the looks and don’t mind all the shipping and waiting hassles. Mine took 3 months

I tested a R1200R from CW Motorcyles that happened to have that version of s sport/comfort(tall.more padded seat) so ordered the 2013 R1200R with that version of sport seat.
Following this I had the 2015 RS and again the "sport seat" but really it is just more padded and taller than standard.
Same again, 2017 R1200RS sport SE with sport seat.
Never had any comfort issues, 10 - 12 hour days, including 1000 mile in 20 hours with only food/fuel and the channel tunnel for breaks, apart from obvious overall fatigue.
I do find it better to sit the bike up on "one plus helmet" on esa when riding solo and both helmets when panniers/topbox/camping gear carried but again I rdie solo.
Suspension is always in road/road or rain/road setting although on the RS it is never as good as the R1200R "comfort" esa setting.
I am under 6ft so perhaps my size affects where the body sits in/on the bike, reach to handlebars etc but no issues with the bmw kit.

Zitat von WillC im Beitrag #17

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I will second the Russell seat for comfort, but not in the looks department.
I also have, and used, a tall Wunderlich seat and although it is better than my stock height seat was, it’s still painful after 2-3 hours. The Russell seat is great, same height as my stocker, if you can get past the looks and don’t mind all the shipping and waiting hassles. Mine took 3 months

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I have a standard Wunderlich, a standard Corbin, and the OEM seats. The Wunderlich and the Corbin are both all day comfortable for me, the seat shapes are correct, both seats are very firm. The OEM seat is too soft and that gets uncomfortable around 3 hours. I have done 10 hour days on both the Wunderlich and the Corbin.

The shapes of the Wunderlich and OEM are almost identical. As you can see in the pictures, the Corbin shape is different and it still works great for me.

Left to right: Wunderlich, OEM, Corbin.
Back to front: Wunderlich, OEM, Corbin.


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Both of us were happy with the stock R1200RS seat, until around 40,000 miles or so.
After that the foam must have started to break down and was too soft.
The last year or two the seats were not comfortable on long days.

I was surprised Debbie liked the stock seat because she usually bought aftermarket seats for her bikes.

Zitat von Lee im Beitrag #21

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Both of us were happy with the stock R1200RS seat, until around 40,000 miles or so.
After that the foam must have started to break down and was too soft.
The last year or two the seats were not comfortable on long days.

I was surprised Debbie liked the stock seat because she usually bought aftermarket seats for her bikes.

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Zitat von runnerhiker im Beitrag #22

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Zitat von Lee im Beitrag #21

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Both of us were happy with the stock R1200RS seat, until around 40,000 miles or so.
After that the foam must have started to break down and was too soft.
The last year or two the seats were not comfortable on long days.

I was surprised Debbie liked the stock seat because she usually bought aftermarket seats for her bikes.

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The OEM seat on my 1200 was fine for the first 6000 miles or so, and then it wasn't ok. That's when I bought the Corbin. When I traded in the 1200 for the 1250, the Corbin didn't work just right with the locking mechanism, that's when I bought the Wunderlich. Upon closer study and observation, I found I just needed to remove a small amount of seat pan material from the Corbin for the lock mechanism to work right. After doing that, I now have two all day seats for the 1250

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I went for a 30 mile ride at lunch yesterday (which is likely my last ride until spring).

It wasn't much of a test but I liked the Wunderlich standard seat. My only slight gripe is the tool holders under the passenger seat could have been a lot better. Some of the tools positions are too small and some too big. Only one really fit well (the screwdriver/oil filler tool).

1. Everyone's different.
2. To avoid stories that sound like the princess and the pea, spend some quality time on your push bikes or your horse. (vide infra)
3. For those of you who like flatter, firmer platforms from which to work, I believe Darrell had one of his sport seats reworked by a saddler in Kinney, MN, who probably still has some of that foam left over.

(Tale of two saddles, Pie Town, NM)

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Any kind of strap-on seat cover is going to be a lot less money than the various seat options. And can be moved on to other bikes.

Zitat von Ali-bear im Beitrag #26

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Any kind of strap-on seat cover is going to be a lot less money than the various seat options. And can be moved on to other bikes.

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I have the standard height Wunderlich seat on my RS. It's firmer than the OEM seat so you don't sink into it as much. As a result you sit slightly higher. The seating surface doesn't slope down towards the front as much as the OEM seat. I feel like this tilts me back a bit, taking some weight off my hands. As you ride you can feel it slowly conform to you so pressure is very evenly distributed. I find I can ride on it for hours without any discomfort

I tried a Sargent seat on the RS. It's hard as rock and never seems to soften up or conform to you, and the shape doesn't work for me at all. I had tried Sargent seats on the R1200GSA I used to have, on a K1600GT and on an R1200GS. Same problem on all of them. Too bad because they seem to be very high quality.

I had a Russel seat on my K1600GT. Very comfortable but you must sit where it tells you to sit due to its cup shaped seating area. If you get one be sure to specify where you want to sit. The Wunderlich seat has a flatter seat allowing more freedom of seating position, and I think it's just as comfortable. It's my favorite after-market seat.

Zitat von backRoadS im Beitrag #19

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Zitat von WillC im Beitrag #17

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I will second the Russell seat for comfort, but not in the looks department.
I also have, and used, a tall Wunderlich seat and although it is better than my stock height seat was, it’s still painful after 2-3 hours. The Russell seat is great, same height as my stocker, if you can get past the looks and don’t mind all the shipping and waiting hassles. Mine took 3 months

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100% accurate. worth the wait/hassle ;) ... this coming from someone who's been called impatient once. maybe twice.

Note, I went with the "sport" seat from Russel. Recommended to those who move around on the seat.

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