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#16 | RE: Any Good Reasons For Connecting My Helmet to The TFT. datum

Sun Oct 31, 2021 10:50 am

Zitat von Lee im Beitrag #15
Got up to 60 F today so we got out for 135 break in miles.
On the TFT I see a white box with 3 dashes. I'm guessing this is the Speed Limit I checked in Settings.
My phone is connected to the TFT so I'm not sure why I don't see the speed limit.
I can live without it since it shows on my GPS, plus the speed limit is wrong a lot of times.

Did you have to have the BMW connected app running on your phone?

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#17 | RE: Any Good Reasons For Connecting My Helmet to The TFT. datum

Sun Oct 31, 2021 1:25 pm

Zitat von Bunter im Beitrag #16

Did you have to have the BMW connected app running on your phone?

And "location" active. Seems obvious but it has caught me out a couple of times.

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#18 | RE: Any Good Reasons For Connecting My Helmet to The TFT. datum

Sun Oct 31, 2021 1:40 pm

Zitat von Lee im Beitrag #15
Got up to 60 F today so we got out for 135 break in miles.
On the TFT I see a white box with 3 dashes. I'm guessing this is the Speed Limit I checked in Settings.
My phone is connected to the TFT so I'm not sure why I don't see the speed limit.
I can live without it since it shows on my GPS, plus the speed limit is wrong a lot of times.

You'll need to download state maps in connected app for speeds to show up in the box.

I ride '19 R1250GSA, '19 Yamaha Xmax 300
my wife rides '20 R1250GS, '13 Piaggio BV350
Both proud former owners of a pair of 2016 R1200RS

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#19 | RE: Any Good Reasons For Connecting My Helmet to The TFT. datum

Sun Oct 31, 2021 2:42 pm

Zitat von MrVvrroomm im Beitrag #18
Zitat von Lee im Beitrag #15
Got up to 60 F today so we got out for 135 break in miles.
On the TFT I see a white box with 3 dashes. I'm guessing this is the Speed Limit I checked in Settings.
My phone is connected to the TFT so I'm not sure why I don't see the speed limit.
I can live without it since it shows on my GPS, plus the speed limit is wrong a lot of times.

You'll need to download state maps in connected app for speeds to show up in the box.

I was wondering about that. I'll uncheck Speed Limit in the TFT Setting and use the speed limit on the GPS.
We usually ignore the speed limits but at times it's nice to know what it is.

Lee
2022 R1250RS
Iowa, USA

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#20 | RE: Any Good Reasons For Connecting My Helmet to The TFT. datum

Sun Oct 31, 2021 2:48 pm

Zitat von Bunter im Beitrag #16
Zitat von Lee im Beitrag #15
Got up to 60 F today so we got out for 135 break in miles.
On the TFT I see a white box with 3 dashes. I'm guessing this is the Speed Limit I checked in Settings.
My phone is connected to the TFT so I'm not sure why I don't see the speed limit.
I can live without it since it shows on my GPS, plus the speed limit is wrong a lot of times.

Did you have to have the BMW connected app running on your phone?

Lee
2022 R1250RS
Iowa, USA

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#21 | RE: Any Good Reasons For Connecting My Helmet to The TFT. datum

Mon Nov 01, 2021 2:43 pm

Zitat von Lee im Beitrag #19
Zitat von MrVvrroomm im Beitrag #18
Zitat von Lee im Beitrag #15
Got up to 60 F today so we got out for 135 break in miles.
On the TFT I see a white box with 3 dashes. I'm guessing this is the Speed Limit I checked in Settings.
My phone is connected to the TFT so I'm not sure why I don't see the speed limit.
I can live without it since it shows on my GPS, plus the speed limit is wrong a lot of times.

You'll need to download state maps in connected app for speeds to show up in the box.

I was wondering about that. I'll uncheck Speed Limit in the TFT Setting and use the speed limit on the GPS.
We usually ignore the speed limits but at times it's nice to know what it is.

IME, the speed limits the app tells me aren't always correct. Sometimes they're just delayed vs when the speed is posted and sometimes they're flat out wrong.

2020 R1250RS

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#22 | RE: Any Good Reasons For Connecting My Helmet to The TFT. datum

Mon Nov 01, 2021 4:44 pm

Zitat von Paul911 im Beitrag #21
Zitat von Lee im Beitrag #19
Zitat von MrVvrroomm im Beitrag #18
Zitat von Lee im Beitrag #15
Got up to 60 F today so we got out for 135 break in miles.
On the TFT I see a white box with 3 dashes. I'm guessing this is the Speed Limit I checked in Settings.
My phone is connected to the TFT so I'm not sure why I don't see the speed limit.
I can live without it since it shows on my GPS, plus the speed limit is wrong a lot of times.

You'll need to download state maps in connected app for speeds to show up in the box.

I was wondering about that. I'll uncheck Speed Limit in the TFT Setting and use the speed limit on the GPS.
We usually ignore the speed limits but at times it's nice to know what it is.

IME, the speed limits the app tells me aren't always correct. Sometimes they're just delayed vs when the speed is posted and sometimes they're flat out wrong.

I would guess the speed limit reading is wrong 25 to 30% of the time.

Lee
2022 R1250RS
Iowa, USA

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#23 | RE: Any Good Reasons For Connecting My Helmet to The TFT. datum

Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:04 pm

My take here is if you are only using the BMW Connected app for nav (and/or music, etc), then yes, connecting TFT to helmet makes sense.

if you're using your phone or a Garmin/etc. then it may not make sense.

I have my phone --> Garmin XT --> Sena 50s AND Phone --> TFT
(but not TFT --> Helmet)

only annoying thing is sometimes iPhone sends audio to TFT instead of XT, which I then have to switch

now: 2020 R1250RS
then: 2015 K1600GT, 1999 VFR800, 1994 VFR750

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#24 | RE: Any Good Reasons For Connecting My Helmet to The TFT. datum

Tue Nov 02, 2021 1:00 am

Zitat von backRoadS im Beitrag #23
My take here is if you are only using the BMW Connected app for nav (and/or music, etc), then yes, connecting TFT to helmet makes sense.

I rarely listen to music on the bike, if I do, the music is on the Nav and my helmet is connected to the Nav.
Same thing with Navigation, I get the map and instruction from my Nav V.

Lee
2022 R1250RS
Iowa, USA

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#25 | RE: Any Good Reasons For Connecting My Helmet to The TFT. datum

Tue Nov 02, 2021 1:23 am

Zitat von Paul911 im Beitrag #21

IME, the speed limits the app tells me aren't always correct. Sometimes they're just delayed vs when the speed is posted and sometimes they're flat out wrong.

I agree and it doesn't make sense. The Nav will show the correct speed limit, but the TFT speed limit will show something else. I am not sure where the Connected app is getting its speed limit data, but it is definitely not from Garmin and it isn't very good.

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#26 | RE: Any Good Reasons For Connecting My Helmet to The TFT. datum

Tue Nov 02, 2021 1:40 am

Zitat von TriangleRider im Beitrag #25
Zitat von Paul911 im Beitrag #21

IME, the speed limits the app tells me aren't always correct. Sometimes they're just delayed vs when the speed is posted and sometimes they're flat out wrong.

I agree and it doesn't make sense. The Nav will show the correct speed limit, but the TFT speed limit will show something else. I am not sure where the Connected app is getting its speed limit data, but it is definitely not from Garmin and it isn't very good.

I didn't realize you guys were saying the TFT speed limit did not agree with the Garmin speed limit.

Lee
2022 R1250RS
Iowa, USA

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#27 | RE: Any Good Reasons For Connecting My Helmet to The TFT. datum

Tue Nov 02, 2021 7:32 am

Zitat von Lee im Beitrag #26

I didn't realize you guys were saying the TFT speed limit did not agree with the Garmin speed limit.

I have just a 1 mph difference between my Nav6 and the speedo setting on my TFT when riding on motorway at a constant speed. Of course there is a slight lag on the Nav6 when I change speed.

One slight curiosity - The cruise control figure on the TFT when in use registers 1 mph difference from the speed on the speedo. As best I recall the cruise control registers 1 mph higher. Hmnn!

Chris

19 Plate R1250RS Exclusive with "bells & whistles" & full colour matched luggage
13 Plate F800GT with full luggage
Past loves: Moto Guzzi Stelvio NTX, Yamaha FJR1300

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#28 | RE: Any Good Reasons For Connecting My Helmet to The TFT. datum

Tue Nov 02, 2021 3:54 pm

Zitat von PlacidoD im Beitrag #27
Zitat von Lee im Beitrag #26

I didn't realize you guys were saying the TFT speed limit did not agree with the Garmin speed limit.

I have just a 1 mph difference between my Nav6 and the speedo setting on my TFT when riding on motorway at a constant speed. Of course there is a slight lag on the Nav6 when I change speed.

One slight curiosity - The cruise control figure on the TFT when in use registers 1 mph difference from the speed on the speedo. As best I recall the cruise control registers 1 mph higher. Hmnn!

Chris

I was referring to the speed limit symbol on the TFT, not the speedometer.

Lee
2022 R1250RS
Iowa, USA

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#29 | RE: Any Good Reasons For Connecting My Helmet to The TFT. datum

Tue Nov 02, 2021 5:08 pm

Zitat von Lee im Beitrag #26
Zitat von TriangleRider im Beitrag #25
Zitat von Paul911 im Beitrag #21

IME, the speed limits the app tells me aren't always correct. Sometimes they're just delayed vs when the speed is posted and sometimes they're flat out wrong.

I agree and it doesn't make sense. The Nav will show the correct speed limit, but the TFT speed limit will show something else. I am not sure where the Connected app is getting its speed limit data, but it is definitely not from Garmin and it isn't very good.

I didn't realize you guys were saying the TFT speed limit did not agree with the Garmin speed limit.

To be clear, I was talking about the speed limit displayed on the TFT, which comes from the map data in the Connected app.

I'm not sure who BMW uses for map data, but I read somewhere it's Tom Tom.

2020 R1250RS

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#30 | RE: Any Good Reasons For Connecting My Helmet to The TFT. datum

Tue Nov 02, 2021 6:51 pm (Last edited: Tue Nov 02, 2021 7:37 pm)

Zitat von Paul911 im Beitrag #29

I'm not sure who BMW uses for map data, but I read somewhere it's Tom Tom.

Looks like you are correct about it being TomTom

w w w.tomtom.com/customers/bmw-motorrad/

On the subject of connecting the helmet to the TFT..... I have connected mine but only really to listen to music.

My phone is connected to the TFT and then the TFT and Nav6 are connected to my helmet. This allows me to play spotify from my phone and control it through the TFT but still lets the Nav override it.

I set it up based on this vid (from around 8mins in)
h t t p s://youtu.be/uNd1LRHkLsE

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