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#16 | RE: Looking for new Lids! datum

Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:21 pm (Last edited: Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:22 pm)

Zitat von Peelz im Beitrag #1
Wife and I are going to upgrade Helmets. there's probably a thread. oh well. My Shoei is really old and tatty.

Id Love to hear suggestions.

needs:

Intercom is an option, or easily installable aftermarket.
Matches the Lupin RS in some capacity. Silver, Blue, White
looks rad. preferably solid color or close, no bizarre tribal or other graphics
Prefer full face, but could possibly go modular
Note theres still a possibility a Lupin RT might come, but I'm not giving up the RS.

dont really wanna break the bank, But I suppose I Will if its just right.

what do you guys use, or suggest I try?

Head shape is critical and its also equally likely that you and the significant other will not be the same - so the vision of matching helmets may be an impossible dream !
I use Schuberth and love the S2 sport. My wife uses Shoei and is on her second Neotec ( flip front). We use Sena comms which both Schuberth and Shoei license to provide units which fit into specific panels on the helmets so we do not have any wires or comms unit visible on the lids - I really like that.
Good luck

*PS my Avatar shows the very nice Schuberth with my very nice Lupin which does coordinate beautifully

Double Lupin owner PCP free

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#17 | RE: Looking for new Lids! datum

Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:29 pm

Zitat von Ray B im Beitrag #7
Zitat von Peelz im Beitrag #6
Id love to go to a store.

the only close one is a yamaha shop, and their selection is less than stellar. Ive trired on most. Theres a harley shop but... harleys and helmets... nah.

We'll venture to further stores, but im looking for which to try in advance. ive got me an oval egg head. ha! So far the shoei qwest is what has fit me best.

What a great excuse for a ride.... You might already know that one of the forum members from Minnesota likes to get his helmets fitted in Pennsylvania.

I'm guessing he prefers Arai. The US distributor is in SE PA.....

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#18 | RE: Looking for new Lids! datum

Thu Mar 18, 2021 2:34 am

Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #9
Zitat von Ray B im Beitrag #7
What a great excuse for a ride.... You might already know that one of the forum members from Minnesota likes to get his helmets fitted in Pennsylvania.

people go to great lengths to dodge a paternity suit

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#19 | RE: Looking for new Lids! datum

Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:34 am

In my experience Shoei have been consistent with their sizes and head-shape, so if you like the fit of one you can most likely get another by mail-order and be confident it's going to fit the same.

Shoei GT Air 2 really needs the chin curtain fitted, then it's fine.

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#20 | RE: Looking for new Lids! datum

Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:57 am (Last edited: Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:59 am)

Hard to recommend a lid to another, head shapes vary so much and the fit depends greatly on head shape. From a quality perspective I certainly think Arab, Shoei and Schubert come high up. My wife and I have different brands purely and surely rightly to ensure the best fit of closeness and comfort. We both have solid white so the matching look is still good even if brands differ, I think white looks good with the Lupin and it works fairly well with any bike colour for that matter.

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#21 | RE: Looking for new Lids! datum

Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:14 am

White Helmets are also good for putting on a display

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#22 | RE: Looking for new Lids! datum

Thu Mar 18, 2021 1:07 pm

Zitat von Ali-bear im Beitrag #19
In my experience Shoei have been consistent with their sizes and head-shape, so if you like the fit of one you can most likely get another by mail-order and be confident it's going to fit the same.

Shoei GT Air 2 really needs the chin curtain fitted, then it's fine.

I agree on head shape, but somewhere in the transition from X-11 to X-12 and Multitec to Neotec, I went from a Shoei XL being a great fit to being too large. Sadly, the current Shoei L is too small. As a result, I've switched to an "intermediate oval" Arai model that I can get fitted in my area. If I wanted to stay with Shoei, I would need to buy the size XL helmet and order thicker cheek and crown pads to hopefully fit the helmet. If that didn't work out, I would be stuck with a helmet that didn't fit. That's disappointing to me as I prefer the design of the Shoei shield attachment from a mechanical and aerodynamic (i.e., noise) perspective.

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#23 | RE: Looking for new Lids! datum

Thu Mar 18, 2021 1:49 pm

Zitat von Mr. 36654 im Beitrag #22
Zitat von Ali-bear im Beitrag #19
In my experience Shoei have been consistent with their sizes and head-shape, so if you like the fit of one you can most likely get another by mail-order and be confident it's going to fit the same.

Shoei GT Air 2 really needs the chin curtain fitted, then it's fine.

I agree on head shape, but somewhere in the transition from X-11 to X-12 and Multitec to Neotec, I went from a Shoei XL being a great fit to being too large. Sadly, the current Shoei L is too small. As a result, I've switched to an "intermediate oval" Arai model that I can get fitted in my area. If I wanted to stay with Shoei, I would need to buy the size XL helmet and order thicker cheek and crown pads to hopefully fit the helmet. If that didn't work out, I would be stuck with a helmet that didn't fit. That's disappointing to me as I prefer the design of the Shoei shield attachment from a mechanical and aerodynamic (i.e., noise) perspective.

I am the reverse. The Shoei Neotec & Neotec 2 fit me nicely in an XL. My previous helmets, a Shoei Raid3 then an XR1100 (I think RF1200 in USA) were a snug fit and I bought thinner cheek pads for them. I still have an XR1100 but this is the helmet that feels claustrophobic now as the visor aperture is smaller and I can't lift the chinbar in town or riding very slowly admiring the scenery.

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#24 | RE: Looking for new Lids! datum

Thu Mar 18, 2021 2:20 pm

Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #23
Zitat von Mr. 36654 im Beitrag #22
Zitat von Ali-bear im Beitrag #19
In my experience Shoei have been consistent with their sizes and head-shape, so if you like the fit of one you can most likely get another by mail-order and be confident it's going to fit the same.

Shoei GT Air 2 really needs the chin curtain fitted, then it's fine.

I agree on head shape, but somewhere in the transition from X-11 to X-12 and Multitec to Neotec, I went from a Shoei XL being a great fit to being too large. Sadly, the current Shoei L is too small. As a result, I've switched to an "intermediate oval" Arai model that I can get fitted in my area. If I wanted to stay with Shoei, I would need to buy the size XL helmet and order thicker cheek and crown pads to hopefully fit the helmet. If that didn't work out, I would be stuck with a helmet that didn't fit. That's disappointing to me as I prefer the design of the Shoei shield attachment from a mechanical and aerodynamic (i.e., noise) perspective.

I am the reverse. The Shoei Neotec & Neotec 2 fit me nicely in an XL. My previous helmets, a Shoei Raid3 then an XR1100 (I think RF1200 in USA) were a snug fit and I bought thinner cheek pads for them. I still have an XR1100 but this is the helmet that feels claustrophobic now as the visor aperture is smaller and I can't lift the chinbar in town or riding very slowly admiring the scenery.

No, we're saying the same thing........the older Shoei head form was slightly smaller.

Relative to the modulars, I'll ride with one on a hot day, but I prefer a fixed chin bar for safety and acoustics (fewer gaps). Approximately 30% of helmet impacts are on the chin bar area.

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#25 | RE: Looking for new Lids! datum

Thu Mar 18, 2021 3:24 pm

I was unaware BMW sold helmets. then I was made aware they are not sold here. Fun rabbithole last night there.... I hear what youre all saying about "fitting" I hear that a lot... But, Strangely, Iv'e never had a problem with one NOT fitting. IF it didnt feel right, change size.... Just assumed I had generic head shape lol

I was jut asking which i should try, because... not everywhere here has everything. Yamaha only has HJC and cheap off brands. BMW has scorpion and Schuberth. tried schuberth there before, had a good fit. But i was cheap :) Right now, I like that C3 "sestante" white silver blue.... think well head up and try.

And yes, helmet shopping is a GREAT excuse for a ride. But even an hour away the selection is weak. Here in Iowa, there just isn't much market for touring bikers. Conversely, leather vests and doorags can be found in large quantity.

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#26 | RE: Looking for new Lids! datum

Thu Mar 18, 2021 5:51 pm

Zitat von Peelz im Beitrag #25
Right now, I like that C3 "sestante" white silver blue.... think well head up and try.

I would check the manufacture date on it.
Anyone know when Schuberth stopped making the C3 Pro?
My C4 was made a little over 3 years ago.

Lee
2016 R1200RS
Iowa, USA

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#27 | RE: Looking for new Lids! datum

Thu Mar 18, 2021 6:06 pm

Zitat von Peelz im Beitrag #25
I was unaware BMW sold helmets. then I was made aware they are not sold here. Fun rabbithole last night there.... I hear what youre all saying about "fitting" I hear that a lot... But, Strangely, Iv'e never had a problem with one NOT fitting. IF it didnt feel right, change size.... Just assumed I had generic head shape lol

I was jut asking which i should try, because... not everywhere here has everything. Yamaha only has HJC and cheap off brands. BMW has scorpion and Schuberth. tried schuberth there before, had a good fit. But i was cheap :) Right now, I like that C3 "sestante" white silver blue.... think well head up and try.

And yes, helmet shopping is a GREAT excuse for a ride. But even an hour away the selection is weak. Here in Iowa, there just isn't much market for touring bikers. Conversely, leather vests and doorags can be found in large quantity.

Any doodoorags?

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#28 | RE: Looking for new Lids! datum

Thu Mar 18, 2021 6:06 pm

Zitat von Mr. 36654 im Beitrag #24
Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #23
Zitat von Mr. 36654 im Beitrag #22
Zitat von Ali-bear im Beitrag #19
In my experience Shoei have been consistent with their sizes and head-shape, so if you like the fit of one you can most likely get another by mail-order and be confident it's going to fit the same.

Shoei GT Air 2 really needs the chin curtain fitted, then it's fine.

I agree on head shape, but somewhere in the transition from X-11 to X-12 and Multitec to Neotec, I went from a Shoei XL being a great fit to being too large. Sadly, the current Shoei L is too small. As a result, I've switched to an "intermediate oval" Arai model that I can get fitted in my area. If I wanted to stay with Shoei, I would need to buy the size XL helmet and order thicker cheek and crown pads to hopefully fit the helmet. If that didn't work out, I would be stuck with a helmet that didn't fit. That's disappointing to me as I prefer the design of the Shoei shield attachment from a mechanical and aerodynamic (i.e., noise) perspective.

I am the reverse. The Shoei Neotec & Neotec 2 fit me nicely in an XL. My previous helmets, a Shoei Raid3 then an XR1100 (I think RF1200 in USA) were a snug fit and I bought thinner cheek pads for them. I still have an XR1100 but this is the helmet that feels claustrophobic now as the visor aperture is smaller and I can't lift the chinbar in town or riding very slowly admiring the scenery.

No, we're saying the same thing........the older Shoei head form was slightly smaller.

Relative to the modulars, I'll ride with one on a hot day, but I prefer a fixed chin bar for safety and acoustics (fewer gaps). Approximately 30% of helmet impacts are on the chin bar area.

or, my head is bigger than your's :)

yes, I get the chinbar safety thing - the Neotec gets dinged by Sharp as the chinbar came open in some tests

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#29 | RE: Looking for new Lids! datum

Fri Mar 19, 2021 3:20 pm (Last edited: Fri Mar 19, 2021 3:20 pm)

Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #28

yes, I get the chinbar safety thing - the Neotec gets dinged by Sharp as the chinbar came open in some tests

I was surprised Shoei did poorly in that test. If I remember right Schuberth stayed closed 100% of the time in tests.
Could you post a link of the test so others can see it?
We decided on Schuberth because of the fit and the test results made me feel better when I later saw the tests.

My only motorcycle accident I was riding my wife's 200 cc scooter and was hit by a car when going 35 or 40 mph.
I landed face first and the chin guard stayed closed. That was a BMW System one helmet.
I threw the helmet away.

Lee
2016 R1200RS
Iowa, USA

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#30 | RE: Looking for new Lids! datum

Fri Mar 19, 2021 3:30 pm

Zitat von Peelz im Beitrag #25
Yamaha only has HJC and cheap off brands.

We have owned HJC modular helmets and thought they were good quality for a great price.
For us they were one of the best fitting helmets we have owned.

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