RE: Suspension (?) Scare

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#16 | RE: Suspension (?) Scare datum

Sun Mar 14, 2021 12:49 pm

Zitat von Sanemancured im Beitrag #14

If the above is the case then I'm glad I don't have to have my suspension mode dictated to me by my throttle response mode.

I use Dynamic throttle response at all times to give me consistency. It's hardly an aggressive engine even at full wrist to throttle body settings. I set my damping in accordance with road conditions. I do have a user mode that gives me maximum traction control with Dynamic throttle mode.

I have actually used Rain throttle mode once, on a very minor, gravelly potholed track in Scotland with my lady on the back.

Then you would be fine on a 1250 with ESA. You'd leave the riding mode in DYNAMIC and switch the damping between ROAD and DYNAMIC as you do already. You could set DYNAMIC PRO to have max traction control and full-on throttle, the only downside is the damping would initially go to DYNAMIC when you select this riding mode so you'd have to remember to switch the damping back to ROAD at the same time.

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#17 | RE: Suspension (?) Scare datum

Mon Apr 05, 2021 12:13 pm

Zitat von Ali-bear im Beitrag #12
On the 1250 when you select a riding mode it automatically selects ROAD or DYNAMIC damping for you. Then you can change the latter either way using the suspension button. I wish it remembered which damping setting you have selected in each riding mode, or at least for dynamic pro riding mode, but it doesn't.

I'm not sure how this compares with the 1250GS?

It's a very automatic system, without unnecessary complication, but luckily it pretty much works the way I want it to (apart from as noted as above). I'm glad it's not super-configurable because I've seen youtubes about the Honda ATAS and that is so fricking complicated it would just annoy me.

Ali-bear,

Note sure whether this is new info. I read your post (or maybe it was somebody else) as saying that on power up the following day if in Dynamic Mode by way of Riding Mode your suspension setting would also power up in that mode. On my 1250RS with software upgraded last December it remembers my setting from the previous power up. So I now leave the bike in Dynamic with Road suspension set for touring. If I want to tighten the handling for some twisties I swap to the suspension only setting to Dynamic. Maybe they all do that but posting this in case it is new info.

Chris

19 Plate R1250RS Exclusive with "bells & whistles" & full colour matched luggage
13 Plate F800GT with full luggage
Past loves: Moto Guzzi Stelvio NTX, Yamaha FJR1300

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#18 | RE: Suspension (?) Scare datum

Mon Apr 05, 2021 12:17 pm

Yeh, maybe I got it wrong. Next time I'm riding I will do like you say, select Dynamic mode with Road suspension and then power-cycle it.
Pretty sure that with mine at least, each time you change the riding mode it pre-selects either Road or Dynamic suspension for you.

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#19 | RE: Suspension (?) Scare datum

Mon Apr 05, 2021 1:14 pm

I figured it might be my recent software upgrade?

Chris

19 Plate R1250RS Exclusive with "bells & whistles" & full colour matched luggage
13 Plate F800GT with full luggage
Past loves: Moto Guzzi Stelvio NTX, Yamaha FJR1300

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#20 | RE: Suspension (?) Scare datum

Mon Apr 05, 2021 2:13 pm

Zitat von Ali-bear im Beitrag #18
Yeh, maybe I got it wrong. Next time I'm riding I will do like you say, select Dynamic mode with Road suspension and then power-cycle it.
Pretty sure that with mine at least, each time you change the riding mode it pre-selects either Road or Dynamic suspension for you.

I have never seen this on my R1200RS and on my last ride I checked by doing exactly as you describe above. This confirmed that my bike remembers whatever the settings were when turned off. Also, the bike does not change any suspension setting when you change riding mode. Yesterday, I rode my S1000XR, also a 2016 bike with ESA, and this behaves exactly the same.

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#21 | RE: Suspension (?) Scare datum

Mon Apr 05, 2021 2:23 pm (Last edited: Mon Apr 05, 2021 2:31 pm)

Possibly it is your recent software upgrade. Another factor to consider is that my bike is the standard one plus ESA plus dynamic pro package, and I think yours is an Exclusive?
I have been out to the garage and checked. On mine it remembers the ESA preload setting no matter what you do with the riding mode or ignition key. But any time you change the riding mode or power cycle the bike, it sets the ESA damping to Road or Dynamic, depending on the selected riding mode. So that's ESA damping=Road for Rain and Road modes, and ESA damping=Dynamic for Dynamic and Dynamic-Pro. You can of course change the damping as you wish at any time.
For me, this setup is perfectly fine, with the small caveat that I wished it remembered which damping mode you have previously selected in Dynamic Pro riding mode.
Also, I accept it's not the same across all bikes, so I will cease telling others how it all works on this here interwebs

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