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#1 | Billy Jr. Brake Light datum

Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:50 am (Last edited: Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:50 am)

Originally I was looking at adding brake lights to my GIVI top box (Admore kit). I like Clearwater lights products but their brake light product (Billy/Billy Jr) mounts to the license plate frame and I didn't want it so low. I was recently at a BMW rally and ended up camping next to the Clearwater rep. We had a lot of time to chat and he is the one who suggested mounting it to my universal GIVI mounting plate. I didn't mine drilling a couple of holes in that since it isn't part of the stock bike.

I really liked the way it turned out. Not a great picture but I'll try to post some video later, the Billy Jr + CanOpener is a great product and has some really good features.

Also notice I purchased some "Weiser" LED turn signal lights. These are great and a lot brighter than stock. Simple plug in (replaces board completely).

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#2 | RE: Billy Jr. Brake Light datum

Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:35 pm

Paint the 2 bolts black!!!

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#3 | RE: Billy Jr. Brake Light datum

Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:06 pm

That is a clean install. I have the Billy which is integrated into the license frame and don't mind it being a bit lower.

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#4 | RE: Billy Jr. Brake Light datum

Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:24 pm

I also have the Billie. Low or high mount it will be seen!
BRIGHT!

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#5 | RE: Billy Jr. Brake Light datum

Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:11 am (Last edited: Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:05 am)

Zitat von outriderx im Beitrag #1
Originally I was looking at adding brake lights to my GIVI top box (Admore kit). I like Clearwater lights products but their brake light product (Billy/Billy Jr) mounts to the license plate frame and I didn't want it so low. I was recently at a BMW rally and ended up camping next to the Clearwater rep. We had a lot of time to chat and he is the one who suggested mounting it to my universal GIVI mounting plate. I didn't mine drilling a couple of holes in that since it isn't part of the stock bike.

I really liked the way it turned out. Not a great picture but I'll try to post some video later, the Billy Jr + CanOpener is a great product and has some really good features.

Also notice I purchased some "Weiser" LED turn signal lights. These are great and a lot brighter than stock. Simple plug in (replaces board completely).

My impression is that the Billie or even Billie Jr. up high might blind or piss-off the drivers (or riders) behind. The Billie is dimmable. Is that true for the Billie Jr.? Any "feedback" from drivers behind?

(For completeness, I note the Billie has a license plate frame that serves as a heat sink, so, it might be more difficult to mount elsewhere.)

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(trail braking in the rain..., and yes, those are also Weisers - you have good taste.)

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#6 | RE: Billy Jr. Brake Light datum

Thu Apr 18, 2019 4:49 pm

I'm a fan of Clearwater stuff, and the Billy Jr. looks like a nice way to add braking visibility. However, Clearwater wants US$279 for a canbus compatible version. Ouch! You Billy fans get this version or the $129 (non-canbus) version?

Cheers,

BTC.

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#7 | RE: Billy Jr. Brake Light datum

Sat Apr 20, 2019 4:00 am (Last edited: Sat Apr 20, 2019 4:03 am)

Zitat von bill the cat im Beitrag #6
I'm a fan of Clearwater stuff, and the Billy Jr. looks like a nice way to add braking visibility. However, Clearwater wants US$279 for a canbus compatible version. Ouch! You Billy fans get this version or the $129 (non-canbus) version?

Cheers,

BTC.

I had to look it up. I believe already had the CanOpener for the Darlas.... Billie brake light $149 16 May 2016 (as I recall, after following Vermont Bob and Darrell around the Ozarks) through my local shop.... I suspect the $279 includes the CanOpener - there aren't two versions of the Billie or Billie Jr.

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#8 | RE: Billy Jr. Brake Light datum

Sat Apr 20, 2019 1:48 pm

I've got a Billie Jnr here in the UK and I've had it for several years on the RS. Yes it is dimmable. I've got the Jnr because the UK license plates are BIG! I've mounted it under and it's been great.

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