RE: New High Score? - Lean Angle - 2

Zitat von Mr. 36654 im Beitrag #15

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Zitat von Vtbob im Beitrag #14

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Hmm........................what kind of values can you generate by doing a rapid countersteer swerve??

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Countersteer one way then quickly countersteer in the opposite direction to perform a swerve. You should get a high instantaneous value of acceleration at the start of each countersteer.

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Zitat von Vtbob im Beitrag #16

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Zitat von Mr. 36654 im Beitrag #15

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Zitat von Vtbob im Beitrag #14

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Hmm........................what kind of values can you generate by doing a rapid countersteer swerve??

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Countersteer one way then quickly countersteer in the opposite direction to perform a swerve. You should get a high instantaneous value of acceleration at the start of each countersteer.

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the other interpretation of "opposite direction, would be to couter steer to straighten up, stand up

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I've got rides with 51/51 degrees & 53 degrees over to the right from Saturday... normal (nice) twisty roads in Germany. Set the bike suspension to Max to keep the centre stand off the ground (which has a nice chunk missing from a particularly fast corner on Auto* a month ago) & the peg didn't touch down on the 53 but it was a downhill-twisty so the slope probably accounted for it... & 1.7G is the max I've done under acceleration... not sure on braking but it's not very impressive... I'll post screenshots when I work out how to...

Edit << this was on nice but normal, dry public roads with good vision on the OEM Metzeler tyres & I'd say it isn't the maximum safe lean angle with the suspension set on Max. It felt comfortable on those roads. The 53 deg was at only 20mph. I was hanging off slightly but wasn't going for a knee down or anything. UK roads I've maxed out at 47 with the state of the roads here.

* on Auto my pegs touch down at 43 degrees at about 50/60mph..

Zitat von Hedgehog im Beitrag #18

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I've got rides with 51/51 degrees & 53 degrees over to the right from Saturday... normal (nice) twisty roads in Germany.

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Zitat von Ray B im Beitrag #19

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Zitat von Hedgehog im Beitrag #18

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I've got rides with 51/51 degrees & 53 degrees over to the right from Saturday... normal (nice) twisty roads in Germany.

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And nice acceleration forces.
Thank you.
Mr. Vvrroomm's wife is a helluva rider, so I was worried that no one was going to be able to post on-road RS numbers better than Dawn on her GS.

Of course, these numbers are meaningless without in-turn lateral G-forces and speed..., I mean, many on the forum can pretend they're on a dirt bike, lean to the outside, and pretty much lay the bike down through a slow speed turn, but not many can handle 1-2 G lateral forces ..., so before we lose some forum members off the side of the mountain, let's leave those tests results and related braggadocio to the track.

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Pardon my ignorance...what app gives this data?

Zitat von Jay K. im Beitrag #21

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Pardon my ignorance...what app gives this data?

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Zitat von Ray B im Beitrag #19

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And nice acceleration forces.
Thank you.
Mr. Vvrroomm's wife is a helluva rider, so I was worried that no one was going to be able to post on-road RS numbers better than Dawn on her GS.

Of course, these numbers are meaningless without in-turn lateral G-forces and speed..., I mean, many on the forum can pretend they're on a dirt bike, lean to the outside, and pretty much lay the bike down through a slow speed turn, but not many can handle 1-2 G lateral forces ..., so before we lose some forum members off the side of the mountain, let's leave those tests results and related braggadocio to the track.

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I joined the 40's club today.
The Gamin NAV VI must be averaging over a second or so the lean angle, as I felt higher peak values in tight short turns, than the values recorded during longer sweeping turns.
During one of my right turns there was a dip/bump that generated a scape of the right side of the center stand.
Maybe on a smooth track I would lean more, but for my bumpy mountain roads with a sprinkle of rocks and dirt, this is enough for me.
Surprisingly good (57 mpg) fuel economy during this fast-paced ride of 60 miles, blending city and mountain roads.
Happy leaning, Jerome.
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Lean angles in the 40s can easily be obtained in any parking lot. All it takes is a little practice and should be easy to learn for any RS rider.

Zitat von Hedgehog im Beitrag #23

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Zitat von Ray B im Beitrag #19

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And nice acceleration forces.
Thank you.
Mr. Vvrroomm's wife is a helluva rider, so I was worried that no one was going to be able to post on-road RS numbers better than Dawn on her GS.

Of course, these numbers are meaningless without in-turn lateral G-forces and speed..., I mean, many on the forum can pretend they're on a dirt bike, lean to the outside, and pretty much lay the bike down through a slow speed turn, but not many can handle 1-2 G lateral forces ..., so before we lose some forum members off the side of the mountain, let's leave those tests results and related braggadocio to the track.

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Thanks & yup. 45 deg was on nice sweepers at about 70mph scraping the pegs... beyond that the speeds drop i think... i was doing about a ton at 45deg when i decked out the centre stand...

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I'm always impressed with how far people can take their motors in lean angle. On my rs, the chicken strip on the rear is 1", and that's as far as I care to take it right now. Not sure what lean angle that puts my bike at.

Carry on folks, it's an interesting discussion

Zitat von Hedgehog im Beitrag #18

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I've got rides with 51/51 degrees & 53 degrees over to the right from Saturday... normal (nice) twisty roads in Germany. Set the bike suspension to Max to keep the centre stand off the ground (which has a nice chunk missing from a particularly fast corner on Auto* a month ago) & the peg didn't touch down on the 53 but it was a downhill-twisty so the slope probably accounted for it... & 1.7G is the max I've done under acceleration... not sure on braking but it's not very impressive... I'll post screenshots when I work out how to...

Edit << this was on nice but normal, dry public roads with good vision on the OEM Metzeler tyres & I'd say it isn't the maximum safe lean angle with the suspension set on Max. It felt comfortable on those roads. The 53 deg was at only 20mph. I was hanging off slightly but wasn't going for a knee down or anything. UK roads I've maxed out at 47 with the state of the roads here.

* on Auto my pegs touch down at 43 degrees at about 50/60mph..

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I'm a ninny, only getting it into the mid-twenties, lol. I have been actively leaning into turns over the past couple of years, i.e. my upper body going over the inside bar. I've noticed this reduces lean angle at a given speed and the reduction "feels" noticeable, but I don't have data. I used to scrape pegs on my old bike and when I started leaning my upper body into a turn I can take the same curve at the same speed with what feels like quite a bit less lean.

I'm also more cautious in my middle age. My wife has MS and I'm her primary caregiver. She encourages me to continue riding, so I try my best to increase my margin for error and tamp down my old hooligan tendencies.