France & Netherlands to be removed from UK travel corridor on Sat 15 Aug

Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #1

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53773914

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-...ravel-corridors

Technically still possible to travel to Germany if you only transit through France & NL but you will have to convince the bureaucracy you have not stopped anywhere and mixed with the indigenous folk on your return to the UK.

I will remain in the UK this year.

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Interesting to read re transit stops.

Having family in Zurich that I have not seen for almost 12 months I am still going - travelling out on 2nd Sept and back overnight on 15th and into the UK on 16th.

My plan is to have an itinerary written in both English and German showing my expected exit time from immigration at Rotterdam and my expected arrival time at the German border backed up by a copy of my ticket and maybe timed photos on my phone and I shall do the same on my return. With a full tank of petrol (plus my 1.5 litre reserve!) I can easily cross Holland without human contact with others.

Of course if they add Switzerland to the list I am scuppered regarding UK quarantine!!

Europe generally seems inclined to proscribe areas e.g Antwerp and Leicester rather than countries. There is a high incidence in Switzerland around Geneva. So there remains a good chance I can get through to Switzerland (and on to Italy) and back to the UK.

My son suggests I get myself tested a couple of days before travel. That might be necessary to get me through Germany.

I begin to feel that I am going to need a holiday to recover from my holiday!

Chris

Zitat von PlacidoD im Beitrag #3

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Interesting to read re transit stops.

Having family in Zurich that I have not seen for almost 12 months I am still going - travelling out on 2nd Sept and back overnight on 15th and into the UK on 16th.

My plan is to have an itinerary written in both English and German showing my expected exit time from immigration at Rotterdam and my expected arrival time at the German border backed up by a copy of my ticket and maybe timed photos on my phone and I shall do the same on my return. With a full tank of petrol (plus my 1.5 litre reserve!) I can easily cross Holland without human contact with others.

Of course if they add Switzerland to the list I am scuppered regarding UK quarantine!!

Europe generally seems inclined to proscribe areas e.g Antwerp and Leicester rather than countries. There is a high incidence in Switzerland around Geneva. So there remains a good chance I can get through to Switzerland (and on to Italy) and back to the UK.

My son suggests I get myself tested a couple of days before travel. That might be necessary to get me through Germany.

I begin to feel that I am going to need a holiday to recover from my holiday!

Chris

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Zitat von midlife crisis im Beitrag #4

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Thats a great idea as I am going through Netherlands to Germany on 18 September so with a full tank should get to Germany in one hit, will have to avoid Belgium. By then it may all change again. I need to check travel insurance which is my biggest worry and also even though the UK government can state only essential travel I dont think DFDS need to refund or give credit or even my hotel in Germany.

Just need to go but want to make sure of insurance safety!!!

Graham

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I don't know the Netherlands or Germany north of Karlsruhe. (I normally travel Zeebrugge to Haguenau hugging the Belgium/France then Germany/France border and then down the B500 through the Black Forest.) So I am furthering my plans moulded by Covid-19. I have now booked hotels near Karlsruhe to avoid overnighting in France at Haguenau

I will travel Europoort A15/A2 into Germany on the A4 at Aachen then refuel 13 km after the border at Aachener Land South. I can do that travelling both ways and so will not need to stop in Netherlands allowing me, I hope, to avoid quarantine.

Can someone assist with a route south from the A4? I normally like to mix dual carriageway with some country roads (taking the N40 from South of Mons to join the E411 near Wellin by way of example). I may have to "hold my nose", set the cruise control, and just put up with dual carriageway all the way but which way? I have a choice of A61 or A1 Eifel down to near Saarbrucken then then A8/A10 to Landau.

The A61 route should work out at a total for the day of about 370 miles - 6.5 hours.
The A1 route should work out at about 390 miles -7.5 hours

Is there any reason to choose one route over the other? Or maybe you want to suggest a totally different route?

P.S. I found this useful list of motorway services/rest stops covering some motorways in Germany and other states

h_t_t_p_s://motorwayareas.com/en/service-areas/germany

Chris

Stopped at Landau to refuel on my first return trip Zurich-Zeebrugge (550 miles odd) in one day on my FJR. On that trip I found the absence of petrol stations on the main highways disconcerting and now the RS is giving me even greater fuel anxiety! Hence my over-preparation.

I got thoroughly albeit temporarily lost around Haguenau on my ride out to Zurich that year (2012). Having crossed from Zweibrucken to Haguenau I went round in circles looking for a Rhine crossing! I think that I had failed to appreciate that there were toll free motorways either side of the Rhine. My SatNav was set to avoid motorway tolls and thus I had assumed would pick up the German motorway. I now know that the A35 is also toll free!!

The toll free setting on my SatNav caused further problems on that trip. Once into Switzerland at Basel it kept trying to throw me off the motorway at each turn. So far as Garmin was concerned I was on a toll road. I had the vignette acquired via Ebay but my tired brain had not made the link!

I think I will try Rotterdam/Aachen/A4/A1/A8/A10. It sound more interesting. It has the merit that I am heading for familiar territory.

Once out of Netherlands I want to stay in Germany. Sods law I will have a puncture or other misadventure if I stray into Belgium and suffer the penalty of quarantine for 14 days!

Chris

Zitat von PlacidoD im Beitrag #5

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Zitat von midlife crisis im Beitrag #4

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Thats a great idea as I am going through Netherlands to Germany on 18 September so with a full tank should get to Germany in one hit, will have to avoid Belgium. By then it may all change again. I need to check travel insurance which is my biggest worry and also even though the UK government can state only essential travel I dont think DFDS need to refund or give credit or even my hotel in Germany.

Just need to go but want to make sure of insurance safety!!!

Graham

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Travel Insurance is normally region rather than country specific. Thus it should be possible to obtain it but if you make a claim when the UK advises against travel e.g. in France, Spain or the Netherlands the Insurers are unlikely to pay up. If in a non-risk country you should have good argument for payment if the claim is not Covid related but you might struggle otherwise.

I missed the boat on renewing my vanilla flavoured travel insurance due in March. The offered renewal terms were no longer available even though I was renewing before expiry of the earlier policy. I have yet to renew. I have cover for the bike (and breakdown via BMW). I will route around this weekend for travel insurance but will not pay through the nose for it.

Chris

P.S. I very much doubt there will be a favourable change to the hit list in a time span that will assist either of us. Portugal's figures are now looking much better but they are still on the list.

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