RE: Z8....opinions? - 4

My 2020 1250 came with Z8’s too and I found them ok. Not great. Decent grip but braking wasn’t awesome.

And now, much to my surprise, the front has hit the side wear bar after 3,750 miles. The tires are also rather pointed with more tread in center. Definitely not the 5-6k miles I read about on another thread here.

All this half way thru my 11 day trip. Sigh. So tomorrow I’ll hunt down some new shoes. A bit frustrating as I have a new set of RS4’s ready for when I got back.

I posted a couple pages back about my experience with the Z8’s and like you I was at the wear bars at 3k.
They were good tires in my opinion but are eclipsed by more modern rubber.
I then went to Road 5’s which are an excellent modern tire with great wet grip as well but they are fatally flawed in my opinion. They are nail magnets and I had two punctures in quick succession on the rears, one of which was not repairable due to it being a gash on the main tread. There are many other folks of the same opinion so it’s not just me.
Since I didn’t trust them anymore I put on some Angel GT’s and have just returned from a trip to the mountains and so far they have been great. Let’s hope the mileage is a little better.

Extremely unclear on how a tyre can be a " nail magnet"

In my experience, whether car or bike, the key is to have a new tire installed. That seems to be the "magnet" part of the equation, lol.

Zitat von duccrazydave im Beitrag #49

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In my experience, whether car or bike, the key is to have a new tire installed. That seems to be the "magnet" part of the equation, lol.

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Sorry, I didnt mean it was actually magnetic, what I meant was that I feel that the sipes/compound/carcass flex have a better than average tendency to stand up objects on the road for a nice puncture in the rear. Whether its the front or rear that does it, I dont know or care really.
After my second failure on the rear (see pic) i did some googling and I find that many others have had a similar experience as me. I have not included links to these posts or reviews as you can readily find them yourself, if interested. I have included most of a link (minus the 3 w's and dot in front)to an article here that explains what I mean;

motorcycle.com/ask-mo-anything/ask-mo-why-do-nails-only-puncture-rear-tires.html

I have removed my halfworn set as I no longer trust them and since I ride fairly long distances in remote areas I didnt want to just prove my theory by standing on the side of the road for 3 hours waiting for another tow.

Many people will have a fine experience with the tire and I hope everyone does. They aren't for me.

Oh....and thanks so much for the downvote, you must be expesssing you opinion.

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Zitat von WillC im Beitrag #51

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Sorry, I didnt mean it was actually magnetic, what I meant was that I feel that the sipes/compound/carcass flex have a better than average tendency to stand up objects on the road for a nice puncture in the rear. Whether its the front or rear that does it, I dont know or care really.
After my second failure on the rear (see pic) i did some googling and I find that many others have had a similar experience as me. I have not included links to these posts or reviews as you can readily find them yourself, if interested. I have included most of a link (minus the 3 w's and dot in front)to an article here that explains what I mean;

motorcycle.com/ask-mo-anything/ask-mo-why-do-nails-only-puncture-rear-tires.html

I have removed my halfworn set as I no longer trust them and since I ride fairly long distances in remote areas I didnt want to just prove my theory by standing on the side of the road for 3 hours waiting for another tow.

Many people will have a fine experience with the tire and I hope everyone does. They aren't for me.

Oh....and thanks so much for the downvote, you must be expesssing you opinion.

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Don’t ya love new rubber.

My rear “nail magnet” caused me to fit new tyres a little bit earlier than expected.

I’ve enjoyed several sets of Metzeler 01s so simply bought a set of 01 SEs - which were ready and waiting.

Brought the loose wheels home this morning and will fit them as soon as I’ve cleaned the tail end of the bike a bit.

With rain and/or sleet and/or snow forecast for tomorrow there won’t be any riding for a while.

I treated the wheels to new valves as a wee treat at 6 years old.

I can’t imagine ever running out of rubber during a ride, but do expect to change tyres every year (2020 excluded).

As an aside, I could see the inside damage to my old tyre and I’m convinced that the puncture was caused by a “ragged” object rather than a nice round nail. Hence, my roadside plug repair couldn’t seal 100%.

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As a means of followup, I ended up with my second choice, Metzler Roadtec 01 SE (?) and with about 1500 miles on them they are excellent. Way better than Z8’s in feel, grip, feedback and quite good when braking.

Zitat von WillC im Beitrag #51

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Sorry, I didnt mean it was actually magnetic, what I meant was that I feel that the sipes/compound/carcass flex have a better than average tendency to stand up objects on the road for a nice puncture in the rear. Whether its the front or rear that does it, I dont know or care really.
After my second failure on the rear (see pic) i did some googling and I find that many others have had a similar experience as me. I have not included links to these posts or reviews as you can readily find them yourself, if interested. I have included most of a link (minus the 3 w's and dot in front)to an article here that explains what I mean;

motorcycle.com/ask-mo-anything/ask-mo-why-do-nails-only-puncture-rear-tires.html

I have removed my halfworn set as I no longer trust them and since I ride fairly long distances in remote areas I didnt want to just prove my theory by standing on the side of the road for 3 hours waiting for another tow.

Many people will have a fine experience with the tire and I hope everyone does. They aren't for me.

Oh....and thanks so much for the downvote, you must be expesssing you opinion.

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There's a special offer on in the UK at the moment if you buy a set of Metzelers, you register the purchase on the metzeler website and get a free £40 prepaid bank card. Trouble is it seems to me that most of the fitters have spotted an opportunity and now charge £25 or more per wheel to take the wheel off the bike, so they snaffle all the upside...!

Anyway, means for £10 I saved the hassle of taking the wheels off and putting them back on again... ho hum.

+1 for Roadtec 01 SE over the stock Z8s, for me they steer more smoothly and ride quality is better. Only done 100 miles or so yet though so only just run in, and I've yet to do anything at speed.

I am going for the 01SE I had 01’s on my Gt1300 and were perfect for my riding mainly in the Dolomites region