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Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:14 am
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According to Transport Canada all bikes are to have 2 amber reflectors as far forward as practicable and 2 red reflectors as far to the rear as possible. According to my dealer in Moncton, NB they checked with BMW Canada and apparently the fact that my bike doesn't have amber reflectors/meet the safety code is perfectly OK and that the rear reflectors being hidden behind the panniers is nothing at all to be concerned about. Funny, that there's a recall of over 47,000 various BMWs motorcycles (including the R1200RS) in the USA for rear reflectors being obscured by the factory panniers which the USA NHTSB says increases the risk of an accident? The fix is that BMW will mount reflectors on the cases. |
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Zitat von Redrider im Beitrag #1 My Euro3 bike was not encumbered with these pretty pointless devices. Is there any independent research to show these devices actually make bikes more visible to other road users? The EU has now adopted the front reflectors for Euro4 onwards but many people find they fall off. I'm just going to place this large bucket of popcorn here. Please help yourself. |
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The reflectors from my '16 RS are missing. As are the ones that came on my '92 Ducati. They're now leading a new life at the bottom of a landfill, somewhere in NC |
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Frankly, I was amazed that BMW had a recall in the U.S. a few years ago to relocate the rear reflectors on many of their recent models, including my RS, so that they would be visible when their saddlebags were installed on the bike. When I received the formal recall notice, I just ignored it and it seems as if the "problem" just went away.
Current motorcycle collection: 2002 Yamaha FZ1; 2005 Triumph Bonneville T-100; 2011 Royal Enfield Bullet 500; 2009 BMW F650GS; 2016 BMW R1200RS; 2018 Zero S 16.6 kWh
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Zitat von duccrazydave im Beitrag #3 I removed my front reflectors when they got in the way of the Clearwater lights. I don't like the ugly pannier reflectors that were part of the recall so I did not add those. I've seen pictures of new bikes that had the rear reflectors mounted to the bottom of the panniers. I would be ok with those.
Lee
2016 R1200RS Iowa, USA |
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Zitat von Redrider im Beitrag #1 If it's really important to you buy the reflectors, then ask to be reimbursed.
Lee
2016 R1200RS Iowa, USA |
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Yup I bought it new and that's how it was when I got it. These are very, very rare here for some strange reason so I don't know this is normal or not. I've really only ever seen a lot more of them in Lebanon TN last summer but they were all US bikes. According to someone the dealer spoke to at BMW Canada it wasn't supposed to have front reflectors. Not having front reflectors makes the bike un-roadworthy according to Transport Canada regulations which therefore voids my insurance to ride it. |
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Zitat von Redrider im Beitrag #10 this Canadian newbie popped up this morning with pictures of his new bike https://www.r1200rsforum.com/t2333f3-Hello-from-Vancouver-Canada.html - as you can see, Dave's 2018 bike has front & rear reflectors |
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I bought mine new in the US. It has reflectors front and on the bags. I wish the bag reflectors looked as nice as the ones on Lee's bike. Mine look like an afterthought in comparison.
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Zitat von Redrider im Beitrag #1 Maybe the Transport Canada recommendation is not based in law (and is not enforceable), whereas in the US it is hence the difference in approach. If there is no statute mandating this then your claim would probably not result in the action you are hoping for. What amuses me in all of this is that some riders look at side reflectors with disdain and remove them, but at the same time will buy lighter coloured gear, high-viz, install additional lighting for "conspicuity" etc. My bike came with the side reflectors and they are still on the bike and will never be taken off. When the panniers were affected by the recall here in the US I went to the dealer and got mine. And to top it all off, one of the first mods on my bike was the installation of reflective rim tape from a reseller called customtaylor33 - an excellent safety addition to the bike. If, as a rider one is concerned about being seen, then removing reflectors makes no sense. Like my top box I think that reflectors do nothing for the aesthetics, but are there only for functional purposes. Knock on wood but I have never had a close call in the night-time. If BMW Canada does not assist with getting the reflectors, I suggest you simply buy them for your own safety's sake. In the meanwhile you can install rim tape like I did.
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Zitat von Redrider im Beitrag #10 I also have reflective strips on the bottom of our bags plus reflective film on the rear of the bags.
Lee
2016 R1200RS Iowa, USA |
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Zitat von Lee im Beitrag #14Zitat von Redrider im Beitrag #10 Not the only source, but a source...... https://motoreflective.com/products/rk-2...00rs-and-r1200r
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