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Wed Dec 18, 2024 11:51 pm (Last edited: Wed Dec 18, 2024 11:52 pm)
Zitat von Richard230 im Beitrag #75Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #73Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #72 IIRC, Italy has public funds invested in the Fiat operations. I'm not sure what French public funds are invested in Peugeot. It's similar to VWs relationship with the state of Lower Saxony, which limits VW business decisions. Old Forum Orphan |
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KTM troubles are not good for staff over this christmas :- |
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There was a quote by Hemingway about how one goes bankrupt. "Two ways. Gradually, then suddenly." |
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Fri Dec 20, 2024 9:28 pm (Last edited: Fri Dec 20, 2024 9:31 pm)
Zitat von Ali-bear im Beitrag #78 I like that quote. Another good one (applicable in these times of "fartcoins" and other outrageous so-called "investments"): "Nothing can save a people determined to become suddenly rich." (Lord Overton) And another (apropos of our times): "It is not a measure of health to be well-adjusted to a profoundly sick society." (J. Krishnamurti) |
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Sat Dec 21, 2024 9:58 am (Last edited: Sat Dec 21, 2024 10:54 am)
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Very true. I worked for a largeish company when it went bust, things were getting tricky but company was just getting by. It changed overnight when suppliers started getting worried they wouldn’t be paid, started demanding things like payment on delivery, company couldnt cope with the sudden demand on cash flow, and then it pretty much immediately collapsed. |
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and now the knock on effect
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https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2025...m-ktm-ceo-role/
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Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #82 How can you have a whole year's worth of inventory and not know it? This guy must have been doing drugs with American tech entrepreneurs.
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Zitat von Mr. 36654 im Beitrag #83Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #82 pretty much a constant over supply of new models with poor reliability and a piss poor dealer network every winter, a fire sale of that year's stock, fucking over residual prices for those that bought new earlier in the year if only they had longer periods between model changes so that bugs were ironed out if only they focussed on quality control rather than over-supply using sub standard components if only they invested in their dealer network if only they did not fuck over customers in so many cynical ways
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Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #85 if Red Bull keep paying the bills, it can probably exist as a standalone entity
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Pierer "steps down"..."offers on the table to buy KTM". |
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Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #88 where the top offer is probably 50 cents and a half sucked Werther's Original
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Sun Jan 26, 2025 9:04 pm (Last edited: Sun Jan 26, 2025 9:04 pm)
Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #89Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #88 Somewhere, someone said Leyland would never die. Or, was that Bultaco, Ossa, Maico, Husqvarna, Laverda, or one of numerous others? On a more serious, KTM nearly went under in the early 90s. According to some, the acquisition of Husaburg is what saved them and provided the engineering knowledge to build the KTM singles and twins. Old Forum Orphan |
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